Runway Excursion Thread

[pelmet]

Sounds like it was possibly one of those gross over-correction inputs. I have seen that in the sim. Sim partner puts in full right rudder and we go off the right side of the runway, then full left rudder and we cross back over and go off the left side of the runway, etc. Of course the computer setup of the sim allows this to continue, snow doesn't.......

C-GBGZ, a Cessna 172 registered to the Brantford Flying Club, was rented by a member who
planned to conduct several touch-and-go night circuits on runway 23 at the Brantford Airport
(CYFD), Ontario, and was the sole occupant of the aircraft. The runway was mostly bare, with
some scattered patches of compact snow and ice. Following the first landing, when the pilot
applied power to begin the takeoff roll, the aircraft began to skid to the right. The pilot corrected to
the left, and the aircraft veered to the left, across the runway, towards the snow at the runway
edge. The pilot reduced power before the aircraft entered the snow. The pilot was uninjured. The
aircraft sustained damage to the nosewheel and propeller. The ELT activated as a result of the
runway excursion.

[pelmet]

C-FOKR, a privately registered Piper PA-46-600TP, was on a visual flight rules flight from the
Region of Waterloo International Airport (CYKF), Ontario, to the Stratford Municipal Airport (CYSA),
Ontario, with the pilot as sole occupant. During the landing roll on runway 17, the pilot felt the
aircraft swerving and attempted a correction before deciding to reject the landing. After he added
power for the go-around, the right main wheel entered the snowbank beside the runway, causing
the aircraft to exit the runway surface into an area of undisturbed snow. The aircraft collided with
some airport signage before the nosewheel sheared off, the aircraft came to a stop upright in a
snow covered area beside the runway. The pilot exited the aircraft uninjured, the aircraft had been
damaged significantly. The propeller was destroyed, and there was damage to the wing, cowling,
and engine mounts. The ELT was activated during the runway excursion.

[pelmet]

C-FRDN, a privately registered PA-46-350P was conducting a flight from Charles B. Wheeler
Downtown Airport (KMKC) Kansas City, MO to James Armstrong Richardson Intl (CYWG)
Winnipeg, MB. The aircraft was cleared to land on runway 36 at CYWG. Runway 36 was bare and
dry, upon touchdown the aircraft unexpectedly and violently turned to the left and exited the
runway. The aircraft made contact with compacted snow and sustained damage to the propeller
and the nose gear assembly. There were no injures to the pilot or to the passengers. ARFF did
attend.

[pelmet]

C-GOWH, a Canadian Aviation College Textron (Cessna) 172M, was conducting flight training at
Pitt Meadows Airport (CYPK) BC, with an instructor and student pilot onboard. During landing, the
aircraft touched down and encountered some unexpected slush and ice. The aircraft braking was
ineffective and the aircraft departed the paved surface at the end of the runway. Once on the grass
the aircraft continued until it hit a drainage ditch which caused a prop strike, damage to the left
wing, and small dents in the right stabilizer. The ELT did not activate. There were no injuries.
The aircraft was towed the company hangar for a maintenance assessment. At the time of this
report, repairs had not yet begun.

[pelmet]

C-GAKW, a Cessna 172L operated by A.L.M. By plane inc. performed circuits (take-offs and
landings) on runway 33 at the aerodrome of St-Mathieu-de-Beloeil, QC (CSB3). At the time of
landing in crosswind conditions, the aircraft was blown to the right. By
Subsequently, the aircraft ended up on a grassy part of the runway strip before
end up in coarse snow. The nose wheel got stuck in the snow and the aircraft
rolled over, ending up on his back. The pilot, alone on board, was not injured. There
emergency locator transmitter (ELT) has activated.

[Bede]

A reminder that if you ever find yourself having to tow a stuck aircraft through snow, mud, etc , NEVER tow by the nose wheel. Always tow by the main gear with straps wrapped as low as you can.

https://youtu.be/meP2MGgqLFs

Years ago I had colleagues that did something similar to a turboprop twin frozen to the ramp. These are expensive repairs.

[pelmet]

A reminder that if you ever find yourself having to tow a stuck aircraft through snow, mud, etc , NEVER tow by the nose wheel. Always tow by the main gear with straps wrapped as low as you can.

https://youtu.be/meP2MGgqLFs

Years ago I had colleagues that did something similar to a turboprop twin frozen to the ramp. These are expensive repairs.

Thanks,

I got a C337 stuck in gravel once after some poor taxi decision making(it looked like a nice area).

The helpful owner of the airstrip was doing the same thing. Fortunately, I recognized the danger and intervened. This video made me glad I did 25 years later.

We ended up digging some small trenches with wood planks to put in front of the mains, some plywood panel under the props(careful as it can get sucked up) and I was able to get enough forward momentum to be able to keep moving forward without sucking up stones.

Lucky escape.

[pelmet]

C-GZON, an Air Spray (1967) Ltd. Aero Commander 690 was conducting a training flight, as flight
ASB055, out of Red Deer (CYQF), AB with 2 flight crew on board. The aircraft started take-off roll
from Runway 17. At approximately 60 knots the nosewheel began to shimmy and the aircraft
veered towards the left side of the runway. The flight crew aborted the take off and tried to keep
the aircraft on the centerline. The aircraft continued to the left and exited the runway. The aircraft
came to a stop in a drainage ditch. The nose gear and left main gear collapsed and both propellers
were damaged. The flight crew were not injured and egressed from the aircraft on their own

[Dias]

Be safe during the upcoming firefighting training season. A lot of aircraft (and pilots) haven't moved in 6 months.

[pelmet]

Looks like poor decision-making on this one. 1500 foot runway in a 182 during heavy rain.....

C-FHIW, a privately registered Cessna 182G, was conducting a flight under visual flight rules from
Tofino/Long Beach Airport (CYAZ), BC, to Duncan Airport (CAM3), BC, with 1 pilot and 1
passenger on board. The aircraft landed on Runway 31, touching down at or near the threshold at
a speed of approximately 70 knots. Heavy rain and wet runway conditions were observed at the
time of touch-down. Upon landing, the pilot retracted flaps and applied brakes. The braking and the
nose wheel steering appeared to be ineffective which is consistent with hydroplaning. With
approximately 500 feet of runway remaining, the pilot attempted to steer the aircraft off the left side
of the runway with the application of full left rudder, with no result. The aircraft exited the end of the
runway surface on or near the centerline. The paved surface ends 75 feet after the runway
threshold marking. A rough embankment, which drops approximately 10 feet over a distance of
approximately 45 feet, begins approximately 15 feet after that. The airplane nosed over and came
to rest inverted at the bottom of the embankment. There was no post-crash fire, and no activation
of the aircraft emergency locator transmitter. The pilot and passenger were able to egress the
aircraft via the pilot's door. There were no injuries. The aircraft was substantially damaged.

From TSB

[pelmet]

From TSB.....

C-GGUH, a Can-West Corp Air Charters Ltd. Cessna 208B was conducting a charter flight from
Fox Lake Aerodrome (CEC3), AB, to High Level Airport (CYOJ), AB. The aircraft lined up for
takeoff on Runway 26, which is 3600 feet long and constructed of sand and gravel. During the
takeoff roll, the pilot observed the airspeed reach approximately 65 knots. The pilot assessed that it
was taking longer than usual for the aircraft to lift off and was concerned about climb performance
and the presence of trees approximately 2000 feet past the end of the runway. Due to these
concerns, the pilot elected to abort the takeoff by reducing power to flight idle then max reverse,
selecting the flaps up and applying maximum braking. During the abort, the aircraft overran the
runway onto the frozen, snow-covered ground. During the overrun, the aircraft crossed over a dirt
berm and then veered to the right before coming to rest approximately 165 feet from the end of
Runway 26. There were no injuries.

[pelmet]

C-FEQW, a Summit Air Ltd. Dornier DO228-202, was operating as training flight SUT01T at the
Yellowknife Airport (CYZF), NT. During a crosswind landing, after brake application, the left main
landing gear tire burst and directional control was lost and the aircraft veered off the side of the
runway. There were no injuries or damage to the aircraft.

From TSB.

[pelmet]

C-FRQA, a Canadian North ATR 72-212A was operating as AKT5858 from Yellowknife Airport
(CYZF), NT, to Cambridge Bay Airport (CYCB), NU. Upon landing in CYCB and decelerating
through 70 knots, the aircraft began to veer to the left. The flight crew attempted to maintain the
aircraft along the runway centerline but were unable to do so. The aircraft continued to the left and
the aircraft excited the side of the runway at approximately 30 knots. The aircraft came to rest with
the nose and left main landing gear in the snow along the side of the runway. The right main gear
remained on the runway surface. The aircraft was shut down and eventually towed back to the
apron. There were no injuries. The aircraft was undamaged.
Company maintenance will advise TSB of the maintenance findings.

From TSB

[pelmet]

C-GZED, a privately registered Van's RV-14 aircraft, was conducting a visual flight rules (VFR)
flight from Sherbrooke Aerodrome (CYSC), QC, to Summerside Aerodrome (CYSU), PE. Upon
arrival at CYSU, C-GZED joined the circuit and conducted an approach for Runway 05.

Recognizing that the aircraft was positioned too high on the approach, the pilot conducted a go-
around to better set-up for a second approach. The second approach was on speed and profile

however, the pilot noted that at approximately 30 feet above the runway, more crab was required
to maintain the runway centerline. The aircraft touched down on the left side of the runway and the
pilot applied full right rudder and brakes in an attempt to regain the runway centerline. The aircraft
continued to drift left with the left main wheel contacting the grass along the edge creating more
drag, which forced the aircraft off the left side of the runway into the grass. When the aircraft
contacted the long grass, the aircraft’s nosewheel buckled backwards and the aircrafts' nose
dropped and contacted the ground. The nose landing gear, propeller and engine suffered
substantial damage. After the aircraft came to a stop, the pilot exited the aircraft uninjured. The
pilot also observed that the wind was favoring Runway 23. Emergency services were contacted
and arrived shortly afterwards to provide assistance.

From TSB

[pelmet]

From TSB....

C-GZRJ, a Summit Air BAE Avro RJ100, was operating as SUT8152 from Ekati Aerodrome
(CYOA), NT, to Yellowknife Airport (CYZF), NT. The aircraft landed on RWY 10, touching down
approximately 1600 feet beyond the threshold. The runway had puddles of standing water from
medium to heavy rains that had fallen recently before the aircraft landed. During rollout, the aircraft
experienced decreased braking action due to hydroplaning while going through a large puddle. The
pilot flying applied maximum braking for the duration of the landing roll, per the recommended
procedure for hydroplaning and the anti-skid system worked normally. While decelerating, the
aircraft exited the end of the runway, stopping approximately 20 feet beyond the paved edge of the
runway on a gravel surface. The aircraft taxied under its own power to return to the gate. The
aircraft received no damage. There were no injuries or property damage.

Best to choose the long runway for landing after heavy rains in an aircraft like that.

[pelmet]

From TSB......

C-GMBT, a Pilatus PC-24 aircraft operated by Keewatin Air LP, was operating an IFR flight from
Winnipeg/James Armstrong Richardson International Airport (CYWG), MB, to Lynn Lake
Aerodrome (CYYL), MB. Prior to the approach to CYYL, the flight crew received the latest
automated weather report indicating the winds were 210° at 6 knots in VMC conditions. The flight
crew calculated a landing distance with Flaps 15 at 3136 feet and conducted an approach to
Runway 17. On final approach, the runway was observed as clear with some snow skiffs. The
aircraft touched down in the touchdown zone, the lift dump devices were deployed, and brakes
were were applied. It was noticed that there was limited braking action due to the runway being
slippery and the flight crews deployed the flaps to 33 degrees. The aircraft slowed down, but
overran the end of the 5004 foot runway at a speed of less than 10 knots, into a grassy area. The
flight crew then taxied back onto the runway and to the apron, and then advised the operator of
what had occurred. There were no injuries.
The operator's maintenance was sent to CYYL and inspected the aircraft. No damage was
identified and the aircraft was returned to service.

[pelmet]

From TSB....

C-GDAB, a Sealand Flight Limited Cessna C172M departed Courtenay Airpark (CAH3), BC, on a
local training flight, under visual flight rules, with only pilot onboard. The pilot was practicing short
field landing techniques and on the occurrence circuit, they landed long. The aircraft skidded off
the end of the runway and impacted the perimeter fence. The pilot egressed without injury. The
aircraft was substantially damaged.
The aircraft had damage to the nose gear and propeller. The aircraft will be taken to an approved
maintenance organization for assessment and repair.

[pelmet]

From TSB. Not much detail but thought I would put it in this thread. If anybody had details, such as soft runway that wasn't checked prior to landing, let us know.......

C-GMMN, a private Cessna 182 overturned while landing in a private field at approximately 24 nm
SW of London International Airport (CYXU), ON. There were 4 souls on board, 3 of which were
taken to the hospital as a precaution. Emergency services were on site. The aircraft sustained
substantial damage.

[pelmet]

From TSB...

C-FARY, an Alberta College of Aeronautics Cessna 172 M, was on a training flight from Cooking
Lake Aerodrome (CEZ3), AB, to Villeneuve (CZVL), AB, for a touch and go and back to CEZ3.
Winds at CZVL were 180 Degrees at 10 kts and the winds at the Edmonton International Airport
(CYEG), AB, the closest airport with weather information, were 180 degrees 15 kts gusting to 21
kts. On approach to Runway 10 at CEZ3, the pilot encountered some turbulence between 3000
feet ASL and 2600 feet ASL. The pilot touched down on Runway 10 with up to 12 knots of
crosswind component. The aircraft drifted to the left side of the runway and contacted the snow
windrow and was further pulled into the snow as the pilot attempted a go-around. The aircraft came
to rest after contacting the VASIS lights, breaking the nose wheel, left wing strut and damaging the
left main gear. The pilot was not injured and was able to exit the substantially damaged aircraft
without any assistance.