Changezilla

[grimreaper70]

Changezilla


While Winnipeg embraced the winter storm blizzilla this week, the ghosts of ACPA past unsheathed a Conflict of Interest sword to battle off the monster of Changezilla. The war cry "By the Power Grey Skull" could be heard throughout the lands of the lowest paid widebody FOs in the world as these heros raised their swords in unity.

Winston Churchill himself was quoted: "Never has so little good been done by so few".

While every other organization on the planet evolves, modernizes and ultimately embraces change to better themselves, these crusaders decided they know better than anyone else and continued their pursuit of the adopted motto "Rise Lower"

Inspired by their buddies in management who are paid to pay pilots less, this band of fully displaced brothers adopted a motion stating that replacing their flight ops friendly committee chairs was a "Conflict of Interest".

Apparently making any attempts to stop the bleeding of being paid less than Flight Attendants or Ultra Low Cost Carriers is a conflict of interest. I suppose after beat down after beat down, the NHL Airline of pilots are just happy to get a schedule before the end of the month, let alone a certain date, like literally every other aircrew group on the planet.

This unity of the mini bases of Vancouver & Montreal to counter progress was something that hasn't been seen since their push for the innovative "cargo for 10% less" program which was at odds to WestJet's "same plane, same pay" cargo plan. This group literally imprinted the entire pilot group's forehead with Rick James' Unity ring while boldly stating "We are Rick James bitch".

With ACPA now rendered even more useless than before thanks to an impending investigation, which in itself is an incredible feat given the classic album of Best Fit which features the hits "biddable RAPs through solving permutation puzzles" & "DBM -2 for everyone but flat pay reserve hosers" - the the old guard has managed to do what is best for the company, again. If only they put this much effort to fighting for gains for the pilot group instead of chowing down on concessionary hot dogs at the concessions stand.

While stories of US unions demonstrating collective strength and making consistent gains for this great occupation are made visible - ACPA has again demonstrated that it is time to unleash Changezilla.

Changezilla needs to walk the streets of ACPA and breath fire to a joint that sucks up union dues to then crap out Nickleback. Even the most cracked out Britney Spears would be better than this group of has beens. While a shaved headed Britney might look a little ragged, she also has a list of hits so she can afford to have a few misteps - these guys don't have that luxury. They have been belting out duds for so long that if they were on stage, Will Smith would likely come up and smack them back to their most dreaded place - the flight line

Changezilla: Show no mercy on this sham of a joint and don't leave any building left unchecked. Our future and solidarity depends on it

[Montroyal]

In YUL here it sounds like the YVR & YUL chairs have found a loophole in the Policy Manual to keep control by just throwing out "Conflict of Interest" allegations which completely freezes business and overrides the MEC.

Just when you thought total dysfunction couldn't get any worse

[Lance rose]

Don't forget Winnipeg as well. Seems like the Montreal boys will do anything to go to ALPA. They have been talking about going to ALPA for years. Hopefully this will speed up the process. Joe Depete will be in Toronto this summer to meet with the Montreal and Toronto guys.

[Lance rose]

Now the Toronto union reps are being held off the MEC for their affiliation to ALPA

[Fanblade]

Now the Toronto union reps are being held off the MEC for their affiliation to ALPA

Lol.

What a crock. ACPA is seeing ghosts in closets.

If the company was attempting this it would be considered union busting. Here at ACPA we do it ourselves

What this is really about is control.

ACPA doesn’t like the recently elected MEC members the membership has voted in. Essentially this is the end of any idea that the membership has control of ACPA.

We don’t. We haven’t for years. It is a fallacy to believe otherwise.

ACPA has to go. It’s not enough to just replace individuals.

[bcflyer]

Now the Toronto union reps are being held off the MEC for their affiliation to ALPA

I have no love for ACPA and would love to see most of the old guard MEC members bounced back to the line to work under the shit contract rules they thought were so great. Having said that, I still haven’t seen any hard evidence that what people “say” is happening is actually happening. Does anyone had actual evidence other that just what they have heard?

[digits_]

So what's actually going on? There's so much sarcasm in the first post, that I have no idea what you're talking about.

[crashpadcommute]

It appears the YVR & YUL Chairs got together and brought forward a motion of conflict of interest to take control of the MEC.

Scary what these guys will do for the company

[digits_]

Interesting.

And how do they justify that action? I assume there must be some explanation when you file a motion like that.

[Fanblade]

Interesting.

And how do they justify that action? I assume there must be some explanation when you file a motion like that.

I'm sure they will have something to hang their accusation on.

My understanding is 5 made an accusation of conflict regarding the three NEM's from the fall elections. That accusation ended up in a vote to decide if the conflict was real. The NEM's of course can't vote but the accusers can. What a joke.

It doesn't pass the sniff test.

[hithere]

So was 5 votes enough to pass the motion? What is the current status of the NEM? Have they been removed from office or something?

[Fanblade]

So was 5 votes enough to pass the motion? What is the current status of the NEM? Have they been removed from office or something?

The membership has not been given any information as of yet. No idea what the final result is. In fairness the meetings only ended last night and it sounds as if they were rather tense.

Maybe we give them a few minutes.

[Lance rose]

ACPA has never been stronger. The relationship with management is equally strong. If the Company needs something or a let they phone the Chairs and it gets done to the benefit of the members. You can't replace that relationship which is a phone call away. Look at the enormous gains the membership has been rewarded with.

I'll say this again, YVR YUL ACPA equals unstoppable.

[Alkasultzer]

It sounds like the Conflict of Interest motion was put to rest after YUL & YVR realized the members were pissed when they heard that they were attempting to seize control of the MEC

An eye opener for the membership moving forward on what these guys will do to work with management

[Winnikegger]

It sounds like the Conflict of Interest motion was put to rest after YUL & YVR realized the members were pissed when they heard that they were attempting to seize control of the MEC

An eye opener for the membership moving forward on what these guys will do to work with management

With management?

They work FOR management

Why do they ALL go to management after they have milked the membership?

[Lance rose]

You guys are missing the point. If management needs a work around to our collective agreement they can phone these guys . They will answer their phones and get it done,

We have to help the company during these times and need guys on the MEC to use their discretion to make it happen or else we will ALL BE ON THE STREET. Shame on the one base YYZ that can't think and be flexible.

[Clark767]

You guys are missing the point. If management needs a work around to our collective agreement they can phone these guys . They will answer their phones and get it done,

We have to help the company during these times and need guys on the MEC to use their discretion to make it happen or else we will ALL BE ON THE STREET. Shame on the one base YYZ that can't think and be flexible.

Finally a little appreciation for ACPA and the hard work it has done in building a close relationship with management

The biggest threat isn't ACPA. It's these people that want "change". Acpa has been serving its members well and without being able to strike what else do people expect.

We should just be happy we aren't at Swoop.

[Clark767]

Oops...double post

Just get a little emotional when I think of all the work ACPA volunteers have put in to build this NHL Airline

[Lance rose]

Exactly Clark 767

I hear you. The collective agreement just impedes management and is an obstacle for them. I also agree with you if we need to lower our wages to make sure we are competitive then we should do it or else we will all end up at swoop. The best saying at ACPA hallways is " manage the members expectations" , that Clarke is fundamental for the relationship between ACPA and the company,

[BTD]

I’m not sure who is sarcastic here. Maybe both. Or neither. Yikes