Any hiring plans this year at all?

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Any hiring plans this year at all?

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Will TS hire this year? If yes what are the hiring minimums like? TIA
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Nothing has been posted on hiring that I know of. The last bid shows outstanding positions and there will be some attrition with all the airlines in Canada hiring.

I don't know what the minimums are but everyone goes into the sim or used to anyways so I imagine it will continue. Attitude gets you an interview and being able to do basic things in an airplane will get you hired.
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I was going to ask the same thing. AT is the only major airline in the whole country that hasn’t posted anything. Even in anticipation!
With AC, WS, Jzz, Porter sucking a lot of experienced guys up. The shortage is going to get worst!
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How many are leaving for AC between now and July?
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JoeyBarton wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 7:45 am How many are leaving for AC between now and July?
I know 5 personnally
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so 5 minus the guys that just quit for other jobs plus the guys that just quit in general. I don't know how they don't feel the shortstaffness yet! With a busy summer schedule....yikes! More flight cancelations.
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We heard they may have to start hiring at the end of the year. However I think the company has more resignations than anticipated. Captains recently resigned to go to AC and this is a wake up call for the company. There are lots of resignations but we don’t have an updated seniority list (maybe for a reason) so we don’t have the exact numbers.
The company is now paying an initial training on the A321 for about 80 pilots but some are about to resign…more money thrown to garbage…
Maybe the boomerang effect of laying off 100% of the crew staff during the pandemic?
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5 going to AC that already have an offer? Plus dozens who will interview in the next few weeks...Are people leaving for swoop or flair on top of that?
Yikes..
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Yes few FOs left for DEC at Swoop (no idea for Flair).
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FL320 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 7:55 pm Yes few FOs left for DEC at Swoop (no idea for Flair).
One junior fo got hired at Flair but he’s coming back this summer…

As for DEC at Swoop, I don’t even know one name? Probably some juniors that commute from YYC or something
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SkyBagPiper wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:44 pm so 5 minus the guys that just quit for other jobs plus the guys that just quit in general. I don't know how they don't feel the shortstaffness yet! With a busy summer schedule....yikes! More flight cancelations.
:lol:

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A few FO's went to Flair for both DEC and FO, but a few may be coming back as well. Regardless these numbers are single digits.

As far as hiring, even if the roster is down to 625 from 670 the fleet size has shrunk to 36 tails with negligible growth planned. Nothing concrete past 38 tails until 2025 and beyond - so this doesn't mean much in our unpredictable market.
This yields a pretty standard 17 crew per tail. Hiring might not be more than maintenance of 2.5% attrition, so 10-20 per year for the next 2 years. Upgrade times have likely correspondingly increased as well. Of course this is just my guess and all speculation, I have no idea what's going on inside. I hope there is more positive growth on the horizon.
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Does TS ever hire DEC or are they typically able to upgrade from within?
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rooster wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:46 pm Does TS ever hire DEC or are they typically able to upgrade from within?
There will not be any DEC for a while. It's been done a long time ago in the earlier days of the company. There is still a good amount of qualified upgrades.
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Hiring window is now open.
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They posted yesterday.

So what’s the usual training path for new hires. I can’t seem to find anything in that regards?

Company indoc, sim, training, line-indoc, seniority, type selection etc?

With the new 321NEOs, do you get first typed on one aircraft then get a 330 difference course months later? How does it work nowadays?
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You get typed on the aircraft awarded as per operational needs. Then if you transfer to other Airbus, you get a CCQ training (4 sims + PPC).

All training is done online from home except for a couple class days for performance course I think. Then APT and then Simulator.
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Can anyone comment to the experience level in the 2020 GS? Has the list changed much since everyone has been recalled?
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Experience ranged from 2500-10,000 hrs on various aircraft. The list hasn’t changed much since 2020, exception being retirees or people who jumped to other operators.

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