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From my understanding, talking to guys there:
Second Officers: $35,000 to start.
Bases in YHM and YOW, don't know about elsewhere. They go to YHZ, Winnipeg, Vancouver, maybe Calgary as well.
Jump seat priveleges where they fly. Unsure if they have arrangements with anyone else. They want a minimum of 1500 hours with 500 multi turbine, commercial and multi-IFR.
Second Officers: $35,000 to start.
Bases in YHM and YOW, don't know about elsewhere. They go to YHZ, Winnipeg, Vancouver, maybe Calgary as well.
Jump seat priveleges where they fly. Unsure if they have arrangements with anyone else. They want a minimum of 1500 hours with 500 multi turbine, commercial and multi-IFR.
Thanks loopy, appreciate the input. Do you know if they hire direct entry F/O's or do you have to go the second officer route first? If so, what's the time span for upgrade to an F/O position? Never realized that they had a base in Ottawa, that's pretty cool. Thanks again.
I do not know anyone who knows anyone, works with anyone or is balling anyone who works for Cargo Jet but it has been my experience that the cargo carriers, especially the large jet cargo carriers, is a career move that is often overlooked. Cargo carriers are now discovering that a shaky, unprincipled operation is a fast way to Chapter 11 and finally bankruptcy. Most carriers now fly older but very serviceable equipment, have a well structured organization with decent pay and good working conditions. The only negative is most of the work is done at night. Just look at Airborne xpress (Now part of DHL) Fedex and UPS in the US. Those are airline operations, with uniforms, SOP's rules, and all the things that make a first class airline. I have a few friends that work for Morningstar and Flightcraft and they all say working conditions are first class, but at night. If this is the future of air cargo, air express, we are all in good shape. At least that is what it looks like through my rose coloured glasses.
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These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
Thanks for the great response there oldtimer, it's much appreciated. I've been thinking the same as you on that one actually. It seems everyone that i'm working with now has overlooked that aspect of the industry. A good majority of them have the airlines in sight and that's it. There are a couple of exceptions though, that like me see it as a great way to get some learning experience in a jet aircraft. Sitting S/O doesn't sound that appealing, but you get some top notch advice/experience from the captain and first officer. I guess it all depends how long you are going to be sitting S/O that scares some people away. Flying the nightshift all the time isn't for everyone, but again what a great way to get some experience on jet aircraft after a flying light turbine twin.
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CargoJet Pay
CargoJet starts you off as a S.O. with a pay of $35,000 for the first year. The pay goes up by about 5 % a year.
As an F.O. you will start at just under $50,000 and again the pay goes up by roughly 5% a year
Captains start out at $88,000/year and max out at $114,000/year.
Cargojet just did a round of interviews for the S.O. position. Good Luck to all.
As an F.O. you will start at just under $50,000 and again the pay goes up by roughly 5% a year
Captains start out at $88,000/year and max out at $114,000/year.
Cargojet just did a round of interviews for the S.O. position. Good Luck to all.
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Look like that they are expanding more, hanger in YHM is built to fit B757-200. Cargo as well. There is some talks around on going wide, but no info on how wide, i guess that they do not want anybody to know thier moves.
Drivers i know there happy with pay, lots of flying too.
Drivers i know there happy with pay, lots of flying too.

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Non Pilots they were and still are called flight engineers. These guys are a hell of a lot more qualified and experieneced than most second officers, nor are they clammering to get in the right seat. I have flown with SO's and FE's and will take and FE any day. I'm not knocking SO's there are a few decent ones.chubbee wrote:Back when pilots were in much shorter supply...90's. There were some carriers flying non pilots in the sideways seat.
I knew of at least two AME non pilots up front on First Air 27's. Is this still happening??
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In my letter that I got from them, it states that you must within an 80 km radious of Hamilton. Hope this helps.turbo-prop wrote:Does any know if you could commute from another city where Air Canada flies? On there website it says they have interline with them.
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