Pay Scales for Calgary Company's

ABFLYER · Post by **ABFLYER** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:06 pm

I hear some companys are cutting pay for pilots in Calgary, is this true?

. . · Post by **. .** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:19 pm

You would think that would be a very bizzare move in the hiring climate today. With everyone having options these days it seems strange that anyone would consider giving their crews the push they might need to make a jump to something better.

ABFLYER · Post by **ABFLYER** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:04 pm

I agree, but I am pretty sure its true that one company is really screwing over the pilots. Has anyone heard anything?

R2000/1830 · Post by **R2000/1830** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:15 pm

Cariboo
Sunwest
BarXH
Alta Flights

They all got new pay scales within the last 6 months, all pay went up. BarXH and Alta went Way up. So the I dont think your info is correct.

FL30 · Post by **FL30** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:50 pm

HA!!!

Check out ol' Harvest's,....................joke

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:28 am

Heard Sunny Homo is getting a new scale... but not sure what the final numbers are.
There was talk that they would be 'taking from some pilots, and giving it to some others'.

Anyone know the inside scoop?

flaps40 · Post by **flaps40** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:23 am

I would imagine the "some others" are owners. Cariboo rearranged and some took 10% cut, go figure.

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:18 pm

endless that is one of the all time best avtar of all time, but it fu*ks up the thread when I try to move it down.

Kariboo Kid · Post by **Kariboo Kid** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:47 pm

flaps40 wrote:I would imagine the "some others" are owners. Cariboo rearranged and some took 10% cut, go figure.

Fiction not fact. Most everyone stayed the same, a few went down (because of their experience bracket) and a few went up.

No one should have gone down and it sucks for sure but the owners already have made one increase to some of the structure because they didn't realize the effect the changes had.

Get your facts straight.

flaps40 · Post by **flaps40** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:18 pm

Seems I had my facts straight as you agreed that some went down. Exactly what I said.

Kariboo Kid · Post by **Kariboo Kid** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:58 pm

flaps40 wrote:Seems I had my facts straight as you agreed that some went down. Exactly what I said.

Firstly, it wasn't 10% - not sure where you pulled that number out of.

Secondly, to insinuate that the owners were taking more cash for themselves off of our backs is BS.
A bunch of people went to the owners and showed them how some were disadvantaged, they listened and made some changes. It's unfortunate that MP had to quit for things to change though.....she was here a long time.

My point is at least they listened - eventually.

Leading Edge · Post by **Leading Edge** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:16 pm

Kariboo Kid wrote:It's unfortunate that MP had to quit for things to change though.....she was here a long time.

My point is at least they listened - eventually.

Those payscale reforms, however underwhelming, were in motion long before her departure.
Don't get me wrong...I certainly won't blame anyone for getting a 40% increase for going across the street.

Edge

Kosiw · Post by **Kosiw** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:50 pm

Okay, so for those of you "in the know" about the Calgary scene, who are the companies that pay well, and those that don't....posting payscales would help...

Kariboo Kid · Post by **Kariboo Kid** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:23 pm

Leading Edge wrote:
Kariboo Kid wrote:It's unfortunate that MP had to quit for things to change though.....she was here a long time.

My point is at least they listened - eventually.
Those payscale reforms, however underwhelming, were in motion long before her departure.
Don't get me wrong...I certainly won't blame anyone for getting a 40% increase for going across the street.

Edge

For sure...once I'm in that ballpark I'll be sniffing around too. If they'd level the playing field with this Contrail business it would make things easier..

At the end of the day, the pay here is still better than most in most cases but not so great in a few spots. The people are good and the machines are very well looked after. No reason for me to leave anytime soon.

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:26 pm

twinpratts wrote:Heard Sunny Homo is getting a new scale... but not sure what the final numbers are.
There was talk that they would be 'taking from some pilots, and giving it to some others'. Anyone know the inside scoop?

I heard management took one look at the "new pay scale" and chucked it in the trash... back to the drawing board...

I'm"pretty sure" the YC operators SW and NC both pay the same. The other yc operator that comes to mind pays quite a bit more for the northern rotations but quite a bit less in the big city since pay is based on mileage, not salary. Also I heard XH upped the ante quite considerably to near 1980's levels, keep it coming Les.

ABFLYER · Post by **ABFLYER** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:23 pm

The New Sunwest Payscale isn't good at all. I heard that alot of the pilots are on a pay freeze until the the new payscale catches up to them.
Some guys aren't getting a pay increase for a few years.

Frank Castle · Post by **Frank Castle** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:01 pm

Any idea what the starting capt rages are for BXH and ALTA on the king airs and jet streams?

Legacy · Post by **Legacy** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:45 am

Hope this hiring trend continues for a while at the airlines because when the music stops I think all these companies are going to try a recuperate their losses during the boom and you know who always gets the end of the shaft when that happens

Legacy · Post by **Legacy** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:48 am

No reason for me to leave anytime soon.

Only that the airlines are hiring like mad!

flyer · Post by **flyer** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:40 am

better pay is nice but doesn't make up for being treated like crap, being expected to break every CAR that can be covered up with imaginative 'paperwork' and not knowing your schedual for the next day til morning. Common...?