Dynamic Aviation In the US???
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tincanflyer
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Dynamic Aviation In the US???
Wonder whats with all the job postings-
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewforum.php?f=7
It looks like they are planning something in the US?
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewforum.php?f=7
It looks like they are planning something in the US?
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tincanflyer
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Dynamic USA
hey yycflyguy
don't know what you know about these guys, but they treat you real well and the airplanes are in good shape and well equipped.
Frankly, i don't know where else you can get king air pic time with 1000 hours TT.
Oh, yah, and you have to want to operate at 150' AGL and work in the arctic or in the tropics. Probably too challanging for an autopilot jock....
don't know what you know about these guys, but they treat you real well and the airplanes are in good shape and well equipped.
Frankly, i don't know where else you can get king air pic time with 1000 hours TT.
Oh, yah, and you have to want to operate at 150' AGL and work in the arctic or in the tropics. Probably too challanging for an autopilot jock....
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AntiNakedMan
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in the summer of 04 we had an American Dynamic King Air in YGX.... very nice plane, and the guys who were flying it were both Canadian, seemed real happy with the job and enjoyed the amount of hours they were getting... King Air PIC time seems pretty decent.
"It's not the size of the hammer, it's how you nail" - Kanga
I recall complaining about them even when I worked there!neverever wrote:Well.....they're not AC, but they treat you decent. Oh, and pretty much the entire fleet has G-530's, wx radars, stormscopes, working autopilots, and new paint jobs.
'Course maybe when I hit the big time, I'll take my turn at sniping.
I stand by what I said regarding my experience there. From 2000 till around mid 2003 when they operated at full steam in Central America the planes were marginal at best. Engines that ITT'd out on the T/O roll with only 780 pounds of torque is not what I would call steller. Aircraft log snags mysteriously rectified without any work yet the snags still persist. Weather radar not operational on 1000 mile legs and back then, they only had 2 planes that had autopilots.... well, they held altitude and heading but forget about coupling an approach. Airplanes that needed over 100 miles to climb to FL 210 loaded up at max ITT while sucking on an oxygen tube.... did I mention that was at night time single pilot in mountainous terrain?? Indeed they had tired engines then, maybe not the case anymore. Nice to see Garmin 530's/stormscopes on them now too.
I am glad that you have had the perserverance and dedication to turn around their maintainance program. It sorely needed it. But I don't think it should be forgotten what your predecessors had to put up with to get the program to where it is today. It is a safer operation today thanks, in part, to those who fought the battles before.
Propeller
As far as how they treated their employees (note the past tense here). I probably saw over 60 pilots work for them in Central America/Mexico/Jamaica and I can count on one hand the number of those who left happy with the company. They were infamous for taking their pound of flesh to make a dollar off the backs of others. Many went from hero one day to doghouse the next as a result of personal vendettas.
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I too worked there....
And pretty much everything YYC said is true, and then some.
They treat you like a piece of meat, and operating under FAR Part 91 in anouther country, ie Panama, Jamaica, Mexico, gets you NO where fast. No one is looking at the a/c as far as regulators are concerned, and the staff they hire have marginal qualifations at best.
Why do you think they employ 1000hr pilots to fly left seat in a King Air...? If you can answer that one, you'll figure out the maintainance staff too.
Everything in Virginia is shiney and new, well looked after, then you head out to your country of employment and the machines go WAY downhill - fast. Some of the machines maintained in Panama are nice(ish), and the rest suck. They are full of fly shit, spiders, dead bugs and styrofoam. The company will not provide proper support, and you will be pressured to go always - They "Do no cancel Pupa flights." That's on the wall in the office.
What is a "Pupa Flight" you ask? It's a 1000nm+ leg single pilot IFR from either Panama City, or Kingston Jamaica, to Southern Mexico. In Jamaica's case 649nm over water. If you look at the map, that little streatch of ocean gets interesting in Huricane season...
When YYC and I were there, there was no pressure O2 masks in any of the IFR machines, and they are all unpressurized. FL 240, a surgical tube of O2 stuck in your mouth, and up to 6hr legs.... Company min fuel was 300lbs if I recall correctly, and the nearest alternate is 100nm away, so fuel is an issue almost every flight. Landing with min fuel was the norm.
The engines are on a extended TBO program, which in and of itself is not a bad thing, however when you hire guys with NO turbine time and hand them a clapped out KA in the tropics, you can imagine how may times those stoves are overtemped on t/o. Some are so brutal I, and several others, refused to fly them off Island.
This company does a great job of hidding their shit, but make no mistake, the shit is there, and it's deep.
Then there is the whole Christian Missionary BS that comes with it... If you're one of them, go for it, you'll fit right in.
STL
And pretty much everything YYC said is true, and then some.
They treat you like a piece of meat, and operating under FAR Part 91 in anouther country, ie Panama, Jamaica, Mexico, gets you NO where fast. No one is looking at the a/c as far as regulators are concerned, and the staff they hire have marginal qualifations at best.
Why do you think they employ 1000hr pilots to fly left seat in a King Air...? If you can answer that one, you'll figure out the maintainance staff too.
Everything in Virginia is shiney and new, well looked after, then you head out to your country of employment and the machines go WAY downhill - fast. Some of the machines maintained in Panama are nice(ish), and the rest suck. They are full of fly shit, spiders, dead bugs and styrofoam. The company will not provide proper support, and you will be pressured to go always - They "Do no cancel Pupa flights." That's on the wall in the office.
What is a "Pupa Flight" you ask? It's a 1000nm+ leg single pilot IFR from either Panama City, or Kingston Jamaica, to Southern Mexico. In Jamaica's case 649nm over water. If you look at the map, that little streatch of ocean gets interesting in Huricane season...
When YYC and I were there, there was no pressure O2 masks in any of the IFR machines, and they are all unpressurized. FL 240, a surgical tube of O2 stuck in your mouth, and up to 6hr legs.... Company min fuel was 300lbs if I recall correctly, and the nearest alternate is 100nm away, so fuel is an issue almost every flight. Landing with min fuel was the norm.
The engines are on a extended TBO program, which in and of itself is not a bad thing, however when you hire guys with NO turbine time and hand them a clapped out KA in the tropics, you can imagine how may times those stoves are overtemped on t/o. Some are so brutal I, and several others, refused to fly them off Island.
This company does a great job of hidding their shit, but make no mistake, the shit is there, and it's deep.
Then there is the whole Christian Missionary BS that comes with it... If you're one of them, go for it, you'll fit right in.
STL


