The CPA will (ultimately) need to be renegotiated.QKZXKV wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:28 amAC absolutely needs to sign off on it... they have a stake in ownership and a seat at the board that was included in the 2019 CPA amendments. Too simplistic to think otherwise.CaptDukeNukem wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 5:27 pmYou’re right. Positive space travel at zero cost would absolutely help at a minimum. Even J class upgrades could probably hold down some commuters. I will politely disagree with one statement from your post. AC does not need to sign off on any agreement changes between Jazz and the pilot group. The fact is, the pilot contract is valid until 2035. Jazz need to up the scales and conditions. That’s entirely on them.hithere wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:41 pm The reason we are able to negotiate inside a 17 year contract( now 12 years left) is the company cannot recruit/retain at the current pay rates. So Jazz management came to the union to negotiate. Why don't we have a new agreement yet? For the same reason Westjet doesn't have an agreement yet. Management(and I mean AC management because they would ultimately have to sign off on any substantial increases)is delusional. Not only do they refuse to address our horrendous pay, they also refuse to think outside the box by offering non-monetary benefits that would help. How about offering free/positive space commuting flights and hotels so that pilots are not forced to move to the most expensive cities in the country. US airlines are doing this for their commuters at both the CPA and mainline. Or do what Porter is doing-open up multiple virtual bases so that pilots can be based close to home.
AC pays the training costs for Jazz so it is incredibly ironic that there obstinance is costing them dearly as they lose so many Jazz Embraer Captains to Porter.
The Jazz contract ensures a minimum of 80, 76 seat aircraft from 2025 until 2035(and exclusivity on AC CPA work until 2025). If it weren't for that long term contract, I can totally see AC terminating the CPA in 2025(or perhaps earlier)because of our inability to staff our operations. So the "17 year deal" might not be such a bad thing after all. Without it, I can't see Jazz lasting much longer.
I will say, I was at sky, we had a CPA agreement also and a union and a contract….and protections and look what happened.
Might not happen this year. Might not happen next year. But it will in all likelihood eventually be renegotiated.
Not a single CPA between CHR and AC has gone full term without being renegotiated.