what sort of time is an operator after if you want to fly right hand seat?
I want to make a career out of flying the PC12 and not go to the airlines. How would I make this a reality?
I know it sounds limiting, but this is what I want the direction I want to go in.
any comments?
AirSprint's mins seem to be around 1500tt with ATP.
Companies that hire PC12 FO's off the ramp include:
- Nakina
- North American Charter (1000 hrs total min for direct-entry)
- Peace Air
- Wasaya
- Pascan (hire direct-entry FO too)
There's gotta be more companies, just cant think of them off the top of my head.
Kelner Pilatus Center in T-Bay has a minimum for FO of 500hrs. Most places probably have 500-1000hrs min for FO.
The best place to hang you hat while flying a PC12 would have to be Innotech-Execaire. They have a huge fleet of jets too, just in case you ever change your mind. Not sure what the mins are.
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If you want the PC12 for a career then the best place would be the RCMP. Where else do you get Westjet captain salary to fly a single engine 9 seater
Get time on type by starting off with one of the previously mentioned companies. Odds are you might have to go north with the RCMP so maybe Keewatin would be good because you would get the northern experience which would help in getting a spot later on.
She's a great bird and considering the envelope that it covers it leads to a variety of destinations.
are there pilot operating handbooks you can buy to study from?
how much would one cost?
anyone know of these companies that will be hiring soon? if the current trend of hiring continues at AC will that mean a lot of captains will be moving off the PC12, therefore opening up lots of positions on the PC12?
North American Charters or Air Bravo both in Thunder Bay are likely your best bets to get straight into a PC-12 without ramp or dispatch time. NAC offers scheduled flying in Northwestern Ontario, while Air Bravo runs Medevac flights throughout Ontario.
Although they both would prefer 1000 hours, you may be able to get into either with 800 ... especially if you can get the message through clearly that you are interested in sticking around!
Both do lots of flying and you'd get experience and the chance to upgrade resonably quickly.
NAC is taking people off the ramp. I know of at least 1 person that have recently moved off the ramp to FO, with no more than a CPL, IFR. They were on the ramp for about 8 months.
But i guess the downside to this is without any PIC time, getting an upgrade will be very hard!
You do not need PIC time to go captain @ NAC. If you start on the ramp then get onto the PC12 with 200hrs, you could potentially go captain at 1500 hrs. if you are next in line.
I am just going to assume you must have been stoned at the time of your ridiculous idea of flying a pc12 for life. Just curious what colum do you put single engine cojo time. Were you dropped on your head as a child. That is about as much time i will waste on stupidity.
If the guy wants to fly the PC12 for the rest of his career, then good for him. I'm sure that all the major PC12 operators would love to have some dedicated lifers onboard.
You need to give your own head a shake and realize that for many people, it's not all about flying a 747 or becoming like Maverick from Top Gun.
Intel, if your goal is to fly the PC12, then I would suggest you target all the major PC12 operators out there. Most require around 1000 hrs or less. If you're flying now, just keep building your hours and keep in touch with the companies that interest you. Good luck.
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I couldn't agree more. All these tough guy posers who call people stupid, for knowing exactly what they want, make me laugh; they might consider reading "Artful Flying" by Michael Maya Charles, it might open their eyes.
Careers come in all shapes and sizes so decide what you want and do your best to achieve it. Your decision to go with a PC12 may work for you now but perhaps not later on in life. The good news is, nothing is forever in this industry and you can always change career direction.
Intel, nothing is wrong with flying a Pilatus for a career, as long as you're happy doing it. The real crime is doing something you don't enjoy but you know that.
RCMP would be an awesome way to spend your career. If you're low time and don't mind some ground time, try handing out some resumes in Thunder Bay. Lots of PC12's and even more awesome people.
I have looked at my lifestyle and career options. I have talked to a few pilots who fly the PC12 and I think it is for me.
I would rather fly a PC12 than a clapped out HO or a caravan in ice.
The wage as a captain is enough to live on with the partner working and it sure beats working for a job.
I am young so if I want to move onto twins I will.
