Just a question:
If you work for a company and they force you to live in the hangar, should you have the right to complain to the other companies that are on the same airfield about maintenance runs in the middle of the night?
Just asking!
living at the airport
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pikeslayer
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pikeslayer
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exactly!! so why is it that we get a nasty?polite fax from the neighbors asking us to quit running our machines in front of thier hangarat night.
1- we don't run in front of thier hangar as it would blow the helicopters neer buy over the runway.
2- they are Hawkers so you can hear them in town
so are we suppose to cease maintenance on our aircraft so the compition can get their rest???
1- we don't run in front of thier hangar as it would blow the helicopters neer buy over the runway.
2- they are Hawkers so you can hear them in town
so are we suppose to cease maintenance on our aircraft so the compition can get their rest???
My first thought was "How can they FORCE you to live in the hangar". You are either homeless or living in a place that was never designed as a living space. It is a work place. If you also work for the company that owns the hangar and are forced to live in your workplace, that means that you are working 24 hours a day which I believe is illegal. You cannot be compelled to live in your workplace unless that workplace is a place designed to be lived in, such as an apartment.
You cannot complain about airplane noise because an airport is where would expect to find airplanes. It was never designed as living space.
You can complain about the noise if you live in a house or apartment close to but not on the airport. My brother in law has the same problem with the smell from a pig farm. He lives on a farm in a rural area and the pig farm is a legal business. Airport noise is a touchy subject. I think that if you complain, the answer will be to force you to move out of the hangar.
Don't you just love the sweet, mellow sound of a RR Dart at 15,000 RPM.
You cannot complain about airplane noise because an airport is where would expect to find airplanes. It was never designed as living space.
You can complain about the noise if you live in a house or apartment close to but not on the airport. My brother in law has the same problem with the smell from a pig farm. He lives on a farm in a rural area and the pig farm is a legal business. Airport noise is a touchy subject. I think that if you complain, the answer will be to force you to move out of the hangar.
Don't you just love the sweet, mellow sound of a RR Dart at 15,000 RPM.
The average pilot, despite the somewhat swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring.
These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
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pikeslayer
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yer right we haven't stoped our normal operations, it just so happens that the day after we got this fax we just finished in service runs on an aircraft that sat for over 3 months getting some major work done to it, witch included two new engines.
I,m just getting my point across..............if your company is too cheap to pay for accomodations (sp?) in town, then yer going to have to live with the noise.
DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S.
15000 is a nice sound at 3 o'clock in the moring
(by the way thats 6 hours into our 12 hour shift)
I,m just getting my point across..............if your company is too cheap to pay for accomodations (sp?) in town, then yer going to have to live with the noise.
DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S.
15000 is a nice sound at 3 o'clock in the moring
(by the way thats 6 hours into our 12 hour shift)
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Beacon... beacon...beacon...Hey Pike be happy you have a job.
That is the most moronic argument ever! You are obviously new to the industry so I will go easy on you, BUT the mentality that somebody is lucky to have a job therefore they should put up with sub-standard and in this case UNSAFE business practices is absurd. IF we were talking about a company so cheap, that they were putting Canadian Tire parts on the aircraft would you use the same argument? The fact is that the crew's (yes S&J... even the FO's
) level of alertness is a fundamental aspect of flight safety. There is a reason that the major airlines, the same ones that truly seem to understand the value of flight safety or at least the consequences of a failure in flight safety, ensure the very best for their crews. Dang, even the military doesn’t skimp out when it comes to aircrew accommodations(at least not in the real airforce....so 10 TAG and MAG doesn’t count).Now I'm not saying that pikeslayer’s company should put him/her in the Thompson Hilton, I am a reasonable man. The standard of accomodation will obviously vary from job to job depending on the company, the location, how long they want to retain their pilots etc.... However, a line in the muskeg must be drawn. For instance, I think a crappy trailer with little insulation parked at an airport would NOT SUFFICE if you have trouble sleeping. A proper apartment in the vicinity of the airport maybe would be a different story.
The fact is, that if your situation is crappy enough to post it here on avcanada then you think it is substandard or even unsafe. If so, then I say keep on fighting for improvements.
AS FOR YOU BEACON FINAL... WAKE UP!!!!! I give you the same proverbial slap that I would to somebody willing to work for free. It is similar attitudes and disunity that have caused a great degradation in our profession. WE MUST BACK EACH OTHER UP... NOT STAB EACH OTHERS BACK!
Ok this is sorta along the same line as this thread Airplane noise. for those in the Vancouver area that are familure with Boundary Bay and Delta Airpark a guy bought a house in between the two airports like literally off the end of 07 of delta and 25 of Boundary Bay. And then this guy has the balls to complain about airplane noise and almost got Delta Airpark shut down, Delta probably has about 15 aircraft movements on a nice weekend. And Boundary was the 3rd busiest in the country a few years back. And all the traffic goes right over his house to ZBB were as the folks at Delta keep the circut tight to avoid his property line. Why is it that one moron can hold an entire group of law abiding people hostage, there should be a Law were you can smack these Darwin Award Winners up side the head. duh i buy a pretty house near two airports what are all these planes doing around here. Check out the CFS for Delta you'll see his property is marked noise sensitive. More like Dumbass Lives here.
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