medical validity

[jasmine]

Am I right to assume my Cat 3 medical PPL aeroplane

is good for 24 months under 40 and 12 months over 40.

as it says in Cars Standards 424.04 (Validity Table) and AIP

I have also heard that just like a recreational pilot 5 years under 40 and 2 years over 40 the same now applies to Private pilot because of an amendment. If this is the case where do you find it? I actually called TC and One person told me one thing and one told me something else.

What if I get a CAT 1 does that change anything for validity period. I dont think it does.

Thanks in advance.

[chiefpilot]

Jasmine;

If you upgrade to a CAT 1 then it's only good until the 1st day of the 13th month if you are under 40, and to the 1st day of the 7th month if over 40.

CP.

[OW]

Medical validity for Cat 3 is 60 months for under 40 and 24 months for over 40. Cat 1 is 12 months for under 40 and 6 months for over 40.

On the back of your medical certificate you will find the reference in CAR 424.04(3).

A CAT 1 medical becomes a CAT 3 at the expiry date and is valid as a CAT 3 for the remainder of the CAT 3 validity period.

Information in AIP - LRA 3.0 is incorrect regarding Medical Validity.

[ahramin]

Hi Jasmine.

No you are not right in assuming that as you will get the finger up the bum far more often than necessary (if you like that sort of thing i am sure you can get it for less than $100 a pop)

If you look on your medical itself it states

Private under 40: 60 months
40 and over: 24 months.

The above periods are only valid while flying in Canada.

A there is absolutely no difference between a cat 1 and cat 3 medical as far as the ppl is concerned. Same validity period, same privileges.

And yes, the CARs and the AIP state 24 and 12. The AIP is not out of date, it is referenced to the CARs. In due time the CARs will be amended, but they do not rewrite the CARs every time an exemption is granted (that is why they have exemptions). Anyone argues this with you show them the exemption (AIC 14/00 in your AIP).

ahramin

[Right Seat Captain]

If your medical (and I mean the piece of paper itself) is from before July 2000, it will be incorrect, although the reference in the CARs is still correct, and has been changed in the CARs.

[I'd Rather Be Flying]

Medical validity is as follows (at least this is how I read it):

A category 3 is valid for 60 months if under forty years of age and 24 months if over forty. A category 1 medical is valid for 12 months if you are under forty and 6 months if you are over forty. Valid until the 1st day of the thirteenth month.

And yes, the AIP references haven't all been updated yet so some of that information might be inaccurate.

[dont_snag_it]

You got two different answers from two different people at Transport Canada...won't be the last time.

[Right Seat Captain]

And yes, the AIP references haven't all been updated yet so some of that information might be inaccurate.

If yo go by the CARs, you're always right. I use the AIP to find references in the CARs and something to do on cold days: On the ground, too cold to fly, change the ammendments, and burn the old pages to keep warm.

[evilevilmonkey]

I have a cat. 1 medical that was renewed in July 2008. I turned 40 in September 2008. To retain my cat. 1, when do I have to get my next medical done??? Is the validity period based on the age you were when you did your last medical???

[Hedley]

Before 1 feb 08. It's based on your age. Every once
in a while, people (who just turned 40) get busted for this.

[sakism]

Incorrect, Hedley. It is based on your age at the time of your medical.

If you get it done the day before you turn 40, it will be good for one year.

If you get it done on your 40th birthday, it is good for 6 months.

[Hedley]

It is based on your age at the time of your medical

That's not what CAR 404.04(6) says.

I have heard of people being busted for this. Caveat Emptor.

[MichaelP]

A major problem for me is the fact a Canadian medical goes from Class 1 to Class 3...
The American (and Chinese) Class 1 goes to Class 2.

Thailand does and does not recognise the Class 3 medical.

If I was a PPL with a Class 3, I can validate my Canadian PPL for up to 2 years in Thailand.

But I have a Class 1, and so they will only give me up to 6 months and then I have to validate again after renewing the medical and wait and wait until that validation comes through. Mae dee mak mak.

I did a validation based on my Chinese CPL and it's CAAC Class 1 medical. This validation was valid for nearly a year because this medical dropped to Class 2. Alright for a Thai PPL.

So whereas the Canadian system is fine here, PPL privileges for a time after the Class 1 expires, to the limit of Class 3, this is not the case elsewhere.

You need a Class 2 in Europe and many other countries.

I wrote to Ottawa on this point and did not receive a reply.

[pelmet]

Ok, so now there may be some new rules. What about a CAT 1 medical valid period for private pilot priveleges(such as renting an aircraft) for over and under 40.

Thanks,

[photofly]

A Class 1 medical validates a licence for the exercise of only PPL privileges for the same period as would have a Class 3 medical done on the same date.

[patter]

What about the 2 crew medical validity for 40-60 year olds. I thought a class 1 medical was 12 months in this case.

[PilotDAR]

What about the 2 crew medical validity for 40-60 year olds. I thought a class 1 medical was 12 months in this case.

That's what my booklet says, or 6 months if single pilot pax pilot or older than 60 years.

[co-joe]

What about the 2 crew medical validity for 40-60 year olds. I thought a class 1 medical was 12 months in this case.

That's what my booklet says, or 6 months if single pilot pax pilot or older than 60 years.

Why is this so confusing now?

My medical certificate says; ATPL 12 months, under 40, and for age 40 and over, 6 months... great but the bottom of the chart references CASS 424.04(3)
Great, except that sub rule 3 was deleted in 2008:

(3) [deleted 2008/05/01]

The AIM, 1.9.1 chart P.365 says 12 months, or 6 if over 40 AND engaged in single pilot air transport service carrying passengers.

Way to make it crystal clear TC. You only have to look 3 places for one answer...

[Big Pistons Forever]

When in doubt start with the CAR's

Everything you need to know about medical validity is explained in CAR 404.04. The title for CAR 404.04 is

Issuance, Renewal, Validity Period and Extension of a Medical Certificate

Seems pretty self explanatory to me........

[co-joe]

The point being that the medical certificate from TC medical licensing references the wrong CAR. In fact it references a CASS and calls it a CAR. But yes you are right Big Pistons, my answer along with being correct in the AIM is also under 4.04 (6.2) a.

Just in case your wife never tells you; you are right dear.

[praveen4143]

Jeez Louise...

Why are we still discussing this thread from 2004? Lol