hey people, i was just wondering as i am a lowtimer why is it that all you old timers make fun of us lowtimers. instead of helping us out, no you have to make everything long and dull. come on people lighten up alittle; all we are asking is for alittle advice. advice that we don't know. don't tell us things that we already know.thats it for me!!!

Well I am a low timer as well. I have 215 TT 35 Multi and my CPL with a group 1. I have been reading this forum for a year or so and seems to me that there are some high timers on here that are more than willing to give advice. It is my opinion that most pilots don't suffer fools. IE when someone asks a question that could easily be found in one of the many reference sources there can be some making fun of happening, but then again that is my opinion and I am just a low timer.

Hey guys, no worries, I think just sometimes people forget what it was like to have 250 hours, out of school, no job or any leads, and trying to figure out what's going on. Aviation, specially in Canada has so many doors ahead of yourself at the beggining that sometimes it seems difficult to see which one will get you where you want faster. Asking won't hurt, and best thing to do sometimes is to ignore the jokes and take in the advice/help (hey, if you think about it, that's the best thing to do in life period!).
Cheers,
DNB

PS: I was a lowtime guy not too long ago myself, and I still consider myself a "newbie." I think you never stop learning in aviation anyway.

Some of us do, and others like nothing better than to zing someone with a snappy comeback to a question that is easily answered here, or in the archives.

If you ask a question, and don't get a reasoned response, try to re-phrase it towards a more specific answer.

"Who will hire a 250 hour pilot?" Will likely enrage a pilot who couldn't have bought a job in the low point of the hiring cycle, and will likely provoke a number of witty replies.

"How should I proceed with my career if I want to fly a CL415 eventually (I am just working on my multi-IFR at the 250 hour mark)?" Would likely yield a few intelligent replies.

Keep asking.

When I was just starting out I just kept asking questions - even if I got flak from the older and "wiser" pilots out there. There's no other way to learn.
There is 2 principles that I go by when finding out information:

1. If you don't ask - you'll never get an aswer

2. As my PPL instructor used to say.......there ARE Stupid Questions - so think a little before you ask.

My 2 cents.....

Just because there are sooooo many 250 hours pilots who come on the forum and seem to want us to do their job hunting for them.

1. Go use the search function and querry threads on how to find a job, there are at least 10 in the last few months alone.

2. Figure out where you want to work and then look at the companies who are there and then: Go to the search function and querry threads on those companies, there are many (especially if you decide to start at Transwest )

3. Then come bask here with intelligent questions about how to get on with the specific companies that you are targetting.

We'd like to help but it just gets tiring telling people the same thing over and over again. Then getting PM's daily asking if I can got them on somewhere.

Good luck.

CJ

I havent had any problems... Just be sure in what you ask.

2. As my PPL instructor used to say.......there ARE Stupid Questions - so think a little before you ask

always remember if you want to buy a ppc on a navajo send me a pm

Dust Devil wrote:always remember if you want to buy a ppc on a navajo send me a pm

Why so you can be the first one to whack over the noggin with a sock filled with a bar of soap?

I guess that's why they call them NavaHO's

Actually, the real answer is that most of us ARE long and dull.

Hey,
When I started out before I actually even had my commercial I talked to quite a few high timers(airline captains, bush pilots, etc.) and asked them face to face on how I would go about getting a job in that perticular field that they where working in.
I found that in this case I got alot of good information which helped me decide where I want to go in my career, and in alot of ways the guys that told me how they did it and said what they should have done has actually helped me get where I am today.

Remember that if your only coming here for your information than ALOT of what your going to get is going to be guys liping off so read what you get here with a grain of salt, and mostly enjoy your career regardless of where you end up.

happy flights,
mike

Being kind of an internet nerd myself i've noticed that on many of the forums I frequent, that if you are a newbie, or ask a stupid question people are going to jump all over you. It the internet, people think they are tough. I've noticed on here it seems like there are alot of a$$holes on here, but in person I havn't really met a pilot that hasn't been very nice and helpful (Well besides some of the 3-400 hour pilots, can they ever be cocky :p ) ....


I'm a newbie myself, on here and as a pilot (CPL, IATRA, and doing the intrrument ride in about an hour :p ) but as long as you act kind of inteligent people are generally nice.

I always help people that pm me, just like in real life. If I can't answer I direct them to people that may help.

I consider the boards to be like a stage. I'm just an attention whore. But thats just me. A cyber persona is easy to mistaken for the real person I have found.