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More Thorough Inspection After an Unusual Event

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We have all done the enroute walk-around at one point or another perhaps somewhat quicker than might be ideal. Not sure what happened here but if there has been a situation where one has banked or pitched more than normal, a much more thorough than normal inspection at the appropriate location is definitely warranted. We had such a situation a few years back with a tailstrike. The aircraft flew more legs before what was really fairly obvious damage was discovered.


C-FNJZ, a Regional Jet 900 operated by Jazz Aviation Ltd, was conducting flight JZA7744 from
Vancouver Intl (CYVR), BC to Saskatoon/John G. Diefenbaker Intl (CYXE), SK with 4 crew
members and 63 passengers on board. While on approach to CYXE Runway 15, the tower
advised C-FNJZ that the winds direction was 180° at 18 knots, gusting to 29 knots and cleared the
aircraft to land. During the landing flare, the right wing dropped. The pilot flying and the captain
both applied flight control inputs to correct the wing drop. The aircraft then landed with no further
deviations. At the conclusion of the flight, one of the pilots conducted a pre-flight walk-around and
a normal station turn was completed. The aircraft then flew uneventfully to CYVR.
Once in CYVR, another crew was assigned the aircraft. Upon their pre-flight walk-around, damage
was observed on the right wing tip and forward right edge of the leading edge lift device. The
aircraft was removed from service for repairs. TSB analysis of the FDR data indicated that the roll
exceeded approximately 12 degrees during the touchdown in CYXE.
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If you don’t mind, could post the date of this and any incident?
I know we’ve had a couple wing strikes but am curious if this is one I’ve heard of or a more recent event.
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cdnavater wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:47 am If you don’t mind, could post the date of this and any incident?
I know we’ve had a couple wing strikes but am curious if this is one I’ve heard of or a more recent event.
Unfortunately, I deleted the email this morning as I typically do after reading it.
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pelmet wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:05 am
TSB analysis of the FDR data indicated that the roll
exceeded approximately 12 degrees during the touchdown in CYXE.
12 degrees doesn't seem like much. Then again, the way it's worded it could have been 90 degrees...
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digits_ wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:41 am
pelmet wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:05 am
TSB analysis of the FDR data indicated that the roll
exceeded approximately 12 degrees during the touchdown in CYXE.
12 degrees doesn't seem like much. Then again, the way it's worded it could have been 90 degrees...
The maximum angle of bank for landing an RJ is 10 degrees, it’s a limitation, for this very reason.
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cdnavater wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:47 am If you don’t mind, could post the date of this and any incident?
I know we’ve had a couple wing strikes but am curious if this is one I’ve heard of or a more recent event.
It happened on June 19.
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TailwheelPilot wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:15 pm
cdnavater wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:47 am If you don’t mind, could post the date of this and any incident?
I know we’ve had a couple wing strikes but am curious if this is one I’ve heard of or a more recent event.
It happened on June 19.
Thanks, so it’s a new one to me
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Edited to remove possibly unfair comment.
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The Champ wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:30 pm How’s paying crap and hiring rookies going for you Jazz?
Do you know who the crew was?
It’s easy to make that assumption but the fact is, previous wing strikes were by experienced crews and I don’t know yet either, so I’ll wait to find out if inexperience was a factor before I comment.
Edit; If the date provided is correct, the front end crew is very experienced, Captain has decades of experience and the FO is probably five years at Jazz, so not a factor.
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Fair enough. I’ll remove the comment.
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