Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:12 am
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Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
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Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:43 am
Mabr Carson too spamming the boards with their weekly job ads.
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:18 am
Between that and banning AirBnbs.. BC has had a good week.
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:36 am
Weird reason why they require it, but great result for sure!
I hope other provinces do the same. There's really no reason why not to.
I hope other provinces do the same. There's really no reason why not to.
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:44 am
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Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:38 am
What about the wage on their new aircraft type....
Haven't heard any good rumours, well then start one.
Haven't heard any good rumours, well then start one.
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:05 am
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:45 am
goldeneagle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:05 amOntario next up.
https://www.cp24.com/ontario-to-make-it ... -1.6632447
Any chance the airlines would be able pull the 'federally regulated industry'-crap to avoid the new rules?
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:12 pm
They wont have to. The Ontario rules will only apply to jobs paying less than 100K, so airlines can just point to the pay scales that top out well over that and say 'doesn't apply'.
In the case of Pasco, just stop advertising in BC, and start advertising thru the Alberta side of the operation.
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:09 pm
Hmmm I doubt you can ignore it if part of your pay scale is above 100k. Seems illogical to hide salary for a 35k fo job because a captain can make more than 100k. Doesn't mean companies won't try though.goldeneagle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:12 pmThey wont have to. The Ontario rules will only apply to jobs paying less than 100K, so airlines can just point to the pay scales that top out well over that and say 'doesn't apply'.
In the case of Pasco, just stop advertising in BC, and start advertising thru the Alberta side of the operation.
I think the BC rules take into account the location of the job, not the address of the mother company. But we'll have to see how that works in practice.
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:53 pm
It would seem to me that the reporter didn’t really read the bill.
Carson already posts their scale
I think that PASCO falls in line in either ‘25 or ‘26.
(3) Unless exempted by regulation, an employer that has the following number of employees on January 1 of the applicable year is a reporting employer:
(a) for 2024, 1 000 or more;
(b) for 2025, 300 or more;
(c) for 2026, 50 or more;
(d) for a year after 2026, more than the lesser of 49 and any prescribed number.
Carson already posts their scale
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:16 am
Yes, airlines are federally regulated and these provincial laws are unlikely to apply to them. The doctrines of Paramountcy and Pith and Substance have many many decisions on them so I don't claim to be an expert, but generally speaking, since there already is a Federal Labour Code, these provincial statutes won't apply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramountcy_(Canada)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_and_substance
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:07 am
Paramountcy is almost never applied in division of powers cases, and I can't think of a single employment related case. Not sure pith and substance is either. The most "applicable" doctrine (pun intended) would be interjurisdictional immunity, but even that, I can't think of a single employment case relying on that either.JBI wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:16 am Yes, airlines are federally regulated and these provincial laws are unlikely to apply to them. The doctrines of Paramountcy and Pith and Substance have many many decisions on them so I don't claim to be an expert, but generally speaking, since there already is a Federal Labour Code, these provincial statutes won't apply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramountcy_(Canada)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pith_and_substance
Where's photofly when you want to geek out on arcane legal doctrines?
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:52 am
I guess no need to post those pay scales on the actual job posting. Had to dig for itNorth Shore wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:53 pm It would seem to me that the reporter didn’t really read the bill.
I think that PASCO falls in line in either ‘25 or ‘26.
Carson already posts their scale
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:14 am
Pasco is posting their pay in their most recent job ads:
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Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:59 am
What kind of housing in YVR does 50K/yr gets you ?
Oh and low experience hires get 40K on their first year …
Truly mystifying that they can’t retain their staff and have to constantly rehire. What could it possibly be?
Oh and low experience hires get 40K on their first year …
Truly mystifying that they can’t retain their staff and have to constantly rehire. What could it possibly be?
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:53 pm
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtop ... t=203060Me262 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:52 amI guess no need to post those pay scales on the actual job posting. Had to dig for itNorth Shore wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:53 pm It would seem to me that the reporter didn’t really read the bill.
I think that PASCO falls in line in either ‘25 or ‘26.
Carson already posts their scale
Right there, in black and white.Successful applicants will be required to sign a Training Bond Agreement unless they already have a current type rating for the Citation 560.
The Company has a COVID -19 Vaccine Policy in place.
Our workforce is diverse, and we are committed to an inclusive work environment where collaboration, understanding and mutual respect bring out the best in us all. We are committed to the health and well-being of our employees, offering a safe and welcoming workplace with competitive salaries and benefits package inclusive of:
- Salary based on experience: starting at $95,000 – up to $130,000 PLUS jet pilot stipend.
- Annual increments based on performance.
- Per diems for each scheduled shift
- Premiums based on shift assignments.
- Extended health and dental benefit plans
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:17 am
It's a nov 10 ad. I posted on the 9th. And on the 9th the pay wasn't posted on their website under the job opening, but available on another pageNorth Shore wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:53 pmhttp://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtop ... t=203060Me262 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:52 amI guess no need to post those pay scales on the actual job posting. Had to dig for itNorth Shore wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:53 pm It would seem to me that the reporter didn’t really read the bill.
I think that PASCO falls in line in either ‘25 or ‘26.
Carson already posts their scaleRight there, in black and white.Successful applicants will be required to sign a Training Bond Agreement unless they already have a current type rating for the Citation 560.
The Company has a COVID -19 Vaccine Policy in place.
Our workforce is diverse, and we are committed to an inclusive work environment where collaboration, understanding and mutual respect bring out the best in us all. We are committed to the health and well-being of our employees, offering a safe and welcoming workplace with competitive salaries and benefits package inclusive of:
- Salary based on experience: starting at $95,000 – up to $130,000 PLUS jet pilot stipend.
- Annual increments based on performance.
- Per diems for each scheduled shift
- Premiums based on shift assignments.
- Extended health and dental benefit plans
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:12 am
That's the latest posting date. The ad has been the same in all of its iterations for the last 6+ months..
Re: Does this mean Pasco might actually have to disclose their "NEW PAY SCALE?"
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:33 pm
I have heard that new Dec's have asked for and received 120 to start. If they offer you the job, remember you get what you negotiate.