Eagle Air

[sunk]

Is this the new Keystone? Ran out of fuel and landed on the road North of Winnipeg.

[digits_]

What type of plane? What happened? When?

[sunk]

Navajo, Thursday and to much air in the tanks.

[CpnCrunch]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.7017407

[fish4life]

So close… yet so far considering the pilot should have made it to st andrews + reserves. Incredibly lucky they didn’t end up another statistic

[digits_]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.7017407

That passenger sounds like a fun guy to have on board

[DanWEC]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.7017407

That passenger sounds like a fun guy to have on board

The passengers up North are a different breed. They're unflappable. Whether it's cancellations, delays, or even the couple emergencies I've had, it's just another day at work.

Meanwhile you've got goofballs down here in jogging pants and sandals taking pictures of speed tape and losing their minds.

Be like Bryon... (But don't be like fricken Eagle Air!)

[pdw]

Seeing here full pax/bags limits the fuelweight allowed to be taken up for W&B legality, sometimes it’s going to be a lighter weight fuel drawn from underground warmth, as possibly here. It also can be at a max age and at a min octane cut for the grade … all combining to consume it slightly faster going into that colder weather trip, .. and maybe not as much tailwind as is flight planned

IMO it’s potentially that type of consumption rate issue that plays into this type of situation esp in this area of Canada at this time of year ( the repeating event being hinted in a previous post above )

[digits_]

IMO it’s potentially that type of consumption rate issue that plays into this type of situation esp in this area of Canada at this time of year ( the repeating event being hinted in a previous post above )

Hmz... I find that highly unlikely. Usually in a navajo you set a fuel flow and get an airspeed. Even if that changes, you should have ample warning you're not going to make it to the field.

If you're referring to a change in fuel density, then that effect should be significantly less than a 30 minutes/45 minutes final reserve. It could be a factor , but a very minor one.

Did they fly CYAV - sachigo return, or was it a bigger trip?

[The Hammer]

Flew right by pickle, Red, Sioux look out, lac du bonnet too. All still have a gas....

[rigpiggy]

Biggest safety devices in a Navajo
#1 jpi fuel totalizer
#2 gps
#3 ads-b

[I WAS Pez]

I never understand PDW.

[SpyPilot]

PDW taps away in a language that I too am not conversant in.

[Bede]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.7017407

That passenger sounds like a fun guy to have on board

This guy is an absolute boss.

I've never been on a plane where that happens, but I know they can fly with only one. So everybody kind of took pictures and was joking about it

We stopped in front of a house and a little kid came out and started taking pictures, so it was kind of funny that way. We were joking, 'Hey, your bus is here,' and that kind of stuff

But honestly, it was kind of pretty cool," Cassie said. "You always think, in the back of your mind, I wonder what would happen if this happened or if that happened. And in this case, I got to live out one of these experiences with no repercussions. [It] was sort of like a bucket list thing for me.

[stef]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzNIhyAg ... BiNWFlZA==

[digits_]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzNIhyAg ... BiNWFlZA==

At night???

[fish4life]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzNIhyAg ... BiNWFlZA==

At night???

Why not you’ve already done one illegal thing that day

[North Shore]

Seeing here full pax/bags limits the fuelweight allowed to be taken up for W&B legality, sometimes it’s going to be a lighter weight fuel drawn from underground warmth, as possibly here. It also can be at a max age and at a min octane cut for the grade … all combining to consume it slightly faster going into that colder weather trip, .. and maybe not as much tailwind as is flight planned

IMO it’s potentially that type of consumption rate issue that plays into this type of situation esp in this area of Canada at this time of year ( the repeating event being hinted in a previous post above )

Really? What a load of bulls!t. Making the assumption that this is simply a case of not enough fuel, I can see your factors making 5, maybe 10% difference - certainly not enough to cover what should have been, at minimum, 30mins of reserve…

[CpnCrunch]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzNIhyAg ... BiNWFlZA==

At night???

Why not you’ve already done one illegal thing that day

Looked more like twilight, but you'd need to check what time they took off at.

[digits_]

Seeing here full pax/bags limits the fuelweight allowed to be taken up for W&B legality, sometimes it’s going to be a lighter weight fuel drawn from underground warmth, as possibly here. It also can be at a max age and at a min octane cut for the grade … all combining to consume it slightly faster going into that colder weather trip, .. and maybe not as much tailwind as is flight planned

IMO it’s potentially that type of consumption rate issue that plays into this type of situation esp in this area of Canada at this time of year ( the repeating event being hinted in a previous post above )

Really? What a load of bulls!t. Making the assumption that this is simply a case of not enough fuel, I can see your factors making 5, maybe 10% difference - certainly not enough to cover what should have been, at minimum, 30mins of reserve…

Careful though, 10% of 5 hours is 30 minutes...

[J31]

Flew right by pickle, Red, Sioux look out, lac du bonnet too. All still have a gas....

Pickle and Sioux are quite a stretch off his track to make a low fuel diversion. I agree on Lac Du Bonnet or Red Lake but those would take some fuel awareness which I think was lacking at that point of the trip.

He did fly right by Selkirk on one engine, about 5 minutes after the other one quit from fuel exhaustion. 3000 feet of gravel at Selkirk would have been best of a lot of bad choices here. So ####ing lucky flying under a powerline and getting it down on a road. Horseshoes up the backside!

[SpyPilot]

The three most useless things in aviation:

The runway behind you.
The air above you.
The geothermal heated fuel that you left behind in the underground storage tank.

[atc_is_god]

Stop making stupid fuel decisions that will kill your passengers and may land you in jail.

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/pilot-avoid ... e-1.283887

[pdw]

did fly right by Selkirk on one engine, about 5 minutes after the other one quit from fuel exhaustion

Taking another look .. that may not have ended up too much better at that unfortunate point seeing the second engine approximately lost abeam to NW about 6miles out over the extended centreline of the nw/se Selkirk rwy when already pointing south into ‘SSW 10mph’ along the country road. How would it have been different if the forced approach got messed up trying to spot land it on that threshold of 3000ft, or not getting that far.

[cdnavater]

did fly right by Selkirk on one engine, about 5 minutes after the other one quit from fuel exhaustion

Taking another look .. that may not have ended up too much better at that unfortunate point seeing the second engine approximately lost abeam to NW about 6miles out over the extended centreline of the nw/se Selkirk rwy when already pointing south into ‘SSW 10mph’ along the country road. How would it have been different if the forced approach got messed up trying to spot land it on that threshold of 3000ft, or not getting that far.

There’s two paved roads that run north south on either end of the Selkirk strip and several farm fields in the vicinity, plus even more mile roads in the same area, just look at google maps, it’s plentiful with forced landing areas.
Even further, this pilot would have flown right past Selkirk on a direct track from Sachigo to YAV, he made a choice to try and cover up this mistake or the gauges were over reading, my money is on him hoping to make it to base and make up some bs to the passengers about why the engine quit, never ever filing a report.
But, I’m a pessimist!