“Dashboard”?

[hithere]

Why is the Porter Q400 call sign now "dashboard" while the Embraer pilots continue with the "Porter" call sign?

[CaptDukeNukem]

Why is the Porter Q400 call sign now "dashboard" while the Embraer pilots continue with the "Porter" call sign?

Probably because “EmbraerPort” was already taken?

[CaptDukeNukem]

But in all seriousness,

It’s two different companies and for reasons well above my pay scale I guess two different companies can’t have the same call sign.

[hithere]

That’s ridiculous. Porter only has one operating certificate(OC) to the best of my knowledge.
It also cannot be some type of ATC requirement to separate the turboprops from the jets since Jazz has operated jets and turboprops over the years with the same Jazz call sign

[braaap Braap]

That’s ridiculous. Porter only has one operating certificate(OC) to the best of my knowledge.
It also cannot be some type of ATC requirement to separate the turboprops from the jets since Jazz has operated jets and turboprops over the years with the same Jazz call sign

Its 2 AOCs and since we started Florida/US destinations this week the FAA and ICAO required a differentiation between the two

[Dash.Trash]

That’s ridiculous. Porter only has one operating certificate(OC) to the best of my knowledge.
It also cannot be some type of ATC requirement to separate the turboprops from the jets since Jazz has operated jets and turboprops over the years with the same Jazz call sign

Incorrect. 2 separate OCs.

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[hithere]

I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification. I still find it extremely odd that ICAO/FAA would require this differentiation since Porter already flew to the US with the Q400 and most airlines have multiple bases. But they make the rules.
Kind of adds to the whole “airline within an airline” vibe though…

[Dash.Trash]

No different than Air Canada and Air Canada Rouge. Different OCs, different call signs.

[Dronepiper]

Where did the callsign "dashboard" come from? It's kind of boring.

Why not use something cool like "Raccoon"?

[8895]

Where did the callsign "dashboard" come from? It's kind of boring.

Why not use something cool like "Raccoon"?

Pretty sure it’s “dashport” not dashboard lol

[hithere]

No different than Air Canada and Air Canada Rouge. Different OCs, different call signs.

Air Canada absolutely wanted two separate OCs ,pay scales, everything, in the beginning of Rouge. It was a way to get around the mainline OC.
Are you saying that Porter management “wanted” this segregation?

[hithere]

No different than Air Canada and Air Canada Rouge. Different OCs, different call signs.

Air Canada absolutely wanted two separate OCs ,pay scales, everything, in the beginning of Rouge. It was a way to get around the mainline OC.
Are you saying that Porter management “wanted” this segregation?

[Dash.Trash]

No different than Air Canada and Air Canada Rouge. Different OCs, different call signs.

Air Canada absolutely wanted two separate OCs ,pay scales, everything, in the beginning of Rouge. It was a way to get around the mainline OC.
Are you saying that Porter management “wanted” this segregation?

… no, was merely pointing out the fact that operators with multiple OCs each have their own call sign…

But since you brought it up, yes I believe it is intentional to have them seperate. In the event the Deluce’s wanted to sell off one entity or the other, having them as seperate companies and OCs would absolutely make that simpler.

[Fullflaps]

Why dont you guys just stop speculatingand go straight to the source and just ask the owner at the next meeting, the answer may or may not be satisfying.
Even if they sell the airline, as long as it s not to air canada, you'll be fine.

[CaptDukeNukem]

I asked once. The answer I got was to meet certain strict IOSA requirements for the jet operation’s future expansion was easier and faster to create a separate company. Regardless, it’s just a call sign, for now. There’s way worse out there.

[PropDog]

I asked once. The answer I got was to meet certain strict IOSA requirements for the jet operation’s future expansion was easier and faster to create a separate company. Regardless, it’s just a call sign, for now. There’s way worse out there.

Word on the street Newark ground has been calling is Door Dash. Maybe not the worst but not far

[totalflyer]

I asked once. The answer I got was to meet certain strict IOSA requirements for the jet operation’s future expansion was easier and faster to create a separate company. Regardless, it’s just a call sign, for now. There’s way worse out there.

Word on the street Newark ground has been calling is Door Dash. Maybe not the worst but not far

Nope that was Montreal… hahaha

Racoon was not an option as there is already a company in France using that callsign. The company tried to apply for Porter Dash and it was approved by ICAO but was refused by NavCanada. We were told there was a bunch of options they submitted for approval but were either rejected or not available.

Alas we got stuck with Dash Port…

As for why the 2 operating certificates it comes from the upfront capital that was required to add the new type to original certificate. It was much less required by starting with a new certificate. It permitted them to get started sooner this way as well from my understanding.

[rudder]

I asked once. The answer I got was to meet certain strict IOSA requirements for the jet operation’s future expansion was easier and faster to create a separate company. Regardless, it’s just a call sign, for now. There’s way worse out there.

Word on the street Newark ground has been calling is Door Dash. Maybe not the worst but not far

Nope that was Montreal… hahaha

Racoon was not an option as there is already a company in France using that callsign. The company tried to apply for Porter Dash and it was approved by ICAO but was refused by NavCanada. We were told there was a bunch of options they submitted for approval but were either rejected or not available.

Alas we got stuck with Dash Port…

As for why the 2 operating certificates it comes from the upfront capital that was required to add the new type to original certificate. It was much less required by starting with a new certificate. It permitted them to get started sooner this way as well from my understanding.

For about a nanosecond Air Canada Regional (Jazz) tried ‘TRANSCAN’. Most often called ‘TRASHcan’ by ATC. It got changed.

Picking a call sign is not rocket science. But shocking how often it can get screwed up. You do have to assume it will be misheard or misspoken.

Keep it simple……

[PropDog]

I asked once. The answer I got was to meet certain strict IOSA requirements for the jet operation’s future expansion was easier and faster to create a separate company. Regardless, it’s just a call sign, for now. There’s way worse out there.

Word on the street Newark ground has been calling is Door Dash. Maybe not the worst but not far

Nope that was Montreal… hahaha

Racoon was not an option as there is already a company in France using that callsign. The company tried to apply for Porter Dash and it was approved by ICAO but was refused by NavCanada. We were told there was a bunch of options they submitted for approval but were either rejected or not available.

Alas we got stuck with Dash Port…

As for why the 2 operating certificates it comes from the upfront capital that was required to add the new type to original certificate. It was much less required by starting with a new certificate. It permitted them to get started sooner this way as well from my understanding.

I just heard that the other night as well. We had like 7 options submitted and NavCanada said this is what you get. Yuck. Oh well, this is our life new. More incentive to try to flow to the jet eventually if there wasn’t already enough

Interesting about the Ops certificates, that I hadn’t heard.

[Dash.Trash]

Word on the street Newark ground has been calling is Door Dash. Maybe not the worst but not far

Nope that was Montreal… hahaha

Racoon was not an option as there is already a company in France using that callsign. The company tried to apply for Porter Dash and it was approved by ICAO but was refused by NavCanada. We were told there was a bunch of options they submitted for approval but were either rejected or not available.

Alas we got stuck with Dash Port…

As for why the 2 operating certificates it comes from the upfront capital that was required to add the new type to original certificate. It was much less required by starting with a new certificate. It permitted them to get started sooner this way as well from my understanding.

For about a nanosecond Air Canada Regional (Jazz) tried ‘TRANSCAN’. Most often called ‘TRASHcan’ by ATC. It got changed.

Picking a call sign is not rocket science. But shocking how often it can get screwed up. You do have to assume it will be misheard or misspoken.

Keep it simple……

I hear “Maple” may be free now…

[PropDog]

Nope that was Montreal… hahaha

Racoon was not an option as there is already a company in France using that callsign. The company tried to apply for Porter Dash and it was approved by ICAO but was refused by NavCanada. We were told there was a bunch of options they submitted for approval but were either rejected or not available.

Alas we got stuck with Dash Port…

As for why the 2 operating certificates it comes from the upfront capital that was required to add the new type to original certificate. It was much less required by starting with a new certificate. It permitted them to get started sooner this way as well from my understanding.

For about a nanosecond Air Canada Regional (Jazz) tried ‘TRANSCAN’. Most often called ‘TRASHcan’ by ATC. It got changed.

Picking a call sign is not rocket science. But shocking how often it can get screwed up. You do have to assume it will be misheard or misspoken.

Keep it simple……

I hear “Maple” may be free now…

It will make all our new ex-sky friends feel right at home

[CaptDukeNukem]

For about a nanosecond Air Canada Regional (Jazz) tried ‘TRANSCAN’. Most often called ‘TRASHcan’ by ATC. It got changed.

Picking a call sign is not rocket science. But shocking how often it can get screwed up. You do have to assume it will be misheard or misspoken.

Keep it simple……

I hear “Maple” may be free now…

It will make all our new ex-sky friends feel right at home

Maple was a good one.

When I was at jazz and flying around in the US, on occasion, a controller would toss in a “maple”. It was a good feeling

[rudder]

I hear “Maple” may be free now…

It will make all our new ex-sky friends feel right at home

Maple was a good one.

When I was at jazz and flying around in the US, on occasion, a controller would toss in a “maple”. It was a good feeling

‘Porter’ for the Q AOC.

‘Maple’ for the E-jet AOC.

Done.

[cjp]

It will make all our new ex-sky friends feel right at home

Maple was a good one.

When I was at jazz and flying around in the US, on occasion, a controller would toss in a “maple”. It was a good feeling

‘Porter’ for the Q AOC.

‘Maple’ for the E-jet AOC.

Done.

lol if only it were that easy. "We're going to use the callsign of an ex-Air Canada regional, for our brand new shiny jet operation - what'dya think Board of Directors"

[CaptDukeNukem]

Maple was a good one.

When I was at jazz and flying around in the US, on occasion, a controller would toss in a “maple”. It was a good feeling

‘Porter’ for the Q AOC.

‘Maple’ for the E-jet AOC.

Done.

lol if only it were that easy. "We're going to use the callsign of an ex-Air Canada regional, for our brand new shiny jet operation - what'dya think Board of Directors"

Why not? lol. The board seems to love taking over other airline’s things. WestJet slots, jazz pilots….