Strip nearest Reindeer Lake

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:19 pm

Anyone know the name of the strip on reindeer lake? or its identifier? I dont know the name but i know its not reindeer lake strip? Its in northern manitoba?

Thanks

Dr. Zhivago · Post by **Dr. Zhivago** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:24 pm

There's three strips I can think of:
1) Southend-south end of lake
2)Brochet-north end of lake
3)Malcolm Island-just south of 57th parallel about half way up the lake 4600 ft it says

Haven't had those maps out in awhile, kinda of wish business hadn't been so booming back then and I could have spent more time enjoying life versus the airline life

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:48 am

Hey Apache... Try askin your boss

Its Malcolm Island, identifier JS2.
Your a great CASO, but not sure about your ability to look in the CFS LOL.
Cheers E, Fly safe all.

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:31 pm

Funny. I looked in the cfs. Couldnt find reindeer lake anywhere. Looked online found reinder lake lodge - and the malcolm island strip and THEN loocked in the cfs and voila i was set. I would ask my boss but he ------------ little guy with a ---------.

Anyways, I hear that he is in bed by 730 and i didnt want to disturb his beauty sleep, god knows he needs it.

Cheers

Apache

PS edited to save my caso position

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:40 pm

To fill in the blanks: is a swell

great big heart with little time on his hands

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:49 pm

LMFAO Apache!!!!!!!
Now get back to work ya bum, I dont pay you the big bucks for your BS. ^5 bud

dont you have a flight at 6 am? go to bed! Cheers E

Hyster · Post by **Hyster** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:03 pm

Riendeer Lake Island Lodge. I believe its owned by Linberg's Lodge. Nice little strip, good enough for a Dash 7.

puddlejumper · Post by **puddlejumper** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:28 am

South end is pretty tight with a navajo (dunno about seneca) with anymore than 4 or 5 ppl with bags/frieght. some medium sized hills to the south if i remember right, but the north is open to the lake. I don't have CFS but it is around 2100' i think.

Cheers,

jackalope · Post by **jackalope** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:51 am

I took 8 out of Southend with a Chieftain one time and almost filled my drawers doing it

Never again! It is pretty much one way strip, in and out over the lake.

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:21 pm

Jackalope,

Gotta remember to bring your jato pack, next time you try that trick. I havent been to southend yet, but 8, yee gods man.

Cheers

Apache

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:37 pm

You call my paycheck big bucks? How bout we trade paychecks for the summer?

Cheers

Apache

PS I dont do it for the money. I have other reasons.

DKO · Post by **DKO** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:55 pm

Which one of you clowns took that king air 100 into Malcolm Island?\
I guess National and Northern Dene will do anything for a buck these days.

pogeypilot · Post by **pogeypilot** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:24 am

That would be me who took the King Air into Malcom Island on Saturday. Please be more specific as to why you would call me a clown. Were you there?? Did you see the strip?? Do you know that we came out empty?? Do you know we had 1000 feet and good vis?? I guess you do cause you were there right?? Shit some of you guys are losers.

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:18 am

Are you running that beech 704 0r 703?

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:35 am

703 JC, just beginning the initial 704 application process with TC. The weather was legal, the conditions were not steller (1000 ft and 7-9 miles), but decent. The runway was checked and landed on by a C414 before we even got there, and they advised the strip was in good shape. I spoke directly to the owner who was on Malcolm Island at the time, and he also checked the strip for us. So, other then providing air service to our customer, what exactly was done "wrong" here? Someone please enlighten me!?
Our company is in its 30th year of, for lack of a better term," fatality free flying"... can many companies say that anymore?Sadly, no.(We had the nose gear on our C310 let us down on landing I think about 9 years ago, landed safely, no injuries) DKO.. pogey is a valued and trusted training Capt and team member for us, and if he made the decision to go, trust me, you dont want to debate that with him... as he is one of the SAFEST pilots i`ve known. Besides, he probably has as much Beech time as you do TT, so take a day off. How do these threads get highjacked by a$$holes so often!? Hey DKO.. Who do you fly for? (and Microsoft doesnt count) I think I feel like slagging YOUR company just for kicks. I honestly dont know how a friendly little thread like this, becomes an attack on a decent company, and a very good pilot. Enlighten me Mr DKO Yeager, and seriously, who do you fly for? You seem to have quite an opinion on our ops, so tell us who YOU work for, lets compare. I`ll stand behind this company again and again, until people like you realize, that we run one of the safest 703 ops in the country! Exaggeration? Not even a little bit. On our level, we ARE one of the best, with the best crews, and management alike. We just brought on an 11,000+ hour CP, and were certainly paying for that experience and management capability he brings to our ops. If you wanna slag National, you are 4+ years too late. We pay our pilots fairly, they are treated as part of our team, and respected for what they do. We dont break regs, and our CP & myself ensure that we dont. We are growing, and will continue to with the support of an owner that truly cares. Its not the 90`s anymore, so get your head outta your a$$. This is tired, I think i`ll go flying.
Fly safe all, Cheers!

DKO · Post by **DKO** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:16 pm

You make me laugh

. I fly more in two months then your whole fleet flies in a year. It's easy "not to kill anyone", when you don't have any customers to fly. If you are taking people into a bush strip like that with a KA, you must be real short on customers. You got lucky this time, but it won't be long before you get "bit in the ass" if you keep that stuff up. You even said yourself that it wasn't a smart thing to do. I heard you telling your buddies on 123.40( Northern Dene's company). You should be more careful what you say on the radio. There's always someone listening somewhere.

beer · Post by **beer** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:53 am

Let the mudd slinging begin. I looked this strip up in the cfs and i don't see a problem if the operator said it was good. Is the whole strip useable? I fly a BE20 out of strips shorter than at gross wieght. Fast air takes there King Airs into Poplar River. We know Flythebug is National management and Poggy Pilot is well respected, so DKO I think your should identify yourself to validate your comments.

Personaly I think that DKO is jelous she/he can't hold a centre line and needs 100 feet on either side to not end up into the rubarb.

pogeypilot · Post by **pogeypilot** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:23 am

DKO...

The whole more in two month's thing is a pretty accurate i guess considering I did 950 hours myself last year. I guess I could look through the logbooks and find out the rest of the times so you could have something else to bicker about. You must have been too busy evesdropping on other guys conversations like a b*!#h to hear us getting cleared to Denver twice a day last summer. Now, if chasing guys conversations is what floats your boat, so be it. However, DON'T PUT WORDS IN THEIR MOUTHS ON THIS FORUM!!! Seeing as it's out in the open now I was having a yarn on Northern Dene's company and was simply saying that the strip was a little softer than I would have liked. But that doesn't change the fact that a 414 pilot went in before me and gave me a good runway report. Not to mention that before he even came into play we had the thumbs up from our ops mgr and cp to charter beavers if we deemed the strip unsafe. I admire your ability to get a fella wound up DKO. Wish I was a little better at it myself. Guess it is true...that you should never let the facts get in the way of a good story...Bravo

westjet700capt · Post by **westjet700capt** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:28 am

well well mr dko. you are either some little shit listening to the boys gossip over the coffee pot trying to make themselves feel better by talkin down someone else and repeating what you heard thinkin your some hero" OR" you are one of those guys who have been around for awhile who sits around talkin down other people trying to make yourself feel like a hero to the little shits. Either way This is a small industry and an unforgiving one that we all need to help each other out in not pass judgement. If you have never made a wrong decision or think you never will then you shouldn't be flying and sure as shit you'll never make it anywhere in life with that attitude. Who cares who flys for what company we are all just fellas trying to have some fun and make a living. We all do things that we may think later might not have been smart but lets hope were man enough to admit it , live through it and pass the info onto the next guy so he comes home safe. I flew for 10 years in sask and the nwt and the maldives for 10 companies and 15 types of airplanes. lost a few friends along the way and sure as shit made wrong decisions along the way but never was so low to pass judgement without trying to help another fella out. goodluck with your career buddie.

Adanac · Post by **Adanac** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:23 am

I have been reading this string for a while now and have done my best not to post a reply but the last set of comments sparked this thought.

You all need to get out of Saskatchewan!

It is a beautiful province, filled with great people and breathtaking country side, but it seems to turn some or even most pilots into crazy people that have nothing better to do but complain and take pleasure in being petty little people.

Life is to short to live like that, get out and move on.

It is also harder to help someone than to belittle them. Try giving postive input instead of shooting someone down. You may all actually enjoy working with others.

My two cents.

margaritaville · Post by **margaritaville** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:11 am

DKO,

First of all 4625 by 50 ft is ample for a KA. Secondly, having been one of those 'clowns' as you so eloquently put it can vouch that the runway condition was obtained by another pilot that landed just prior. All options were examined and safety was the top priority. They say ignorance is bliss, but perhaps actual facts should be acquired before slamming good companies.

Cheers

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:05 pm

After 2 months of working at National, I have never heard of a company that is so behind their pilots when they make a go/no go decision. I have talked to all the captains, flown some hours right seat with them. Not once have we been harped on by management to get the plane in the air, pack it to the roof and strap some plywood onto the wings for extra lift. The chief pilot we had and the chief pilot we now have, have done nothing but make sure we are comfortable and legal with what we are doing. For you to come up with this shit that you are typing you must know everything. I havent flown the king air yet, but i can take a wild guess that it can get in and out of an almost 5000' strip. If it cant, its not a very useful a/c to us. Then we have to ask about the other people operating king airs in saskatchewan, none of them going into strips less than 5000' long, that arent paved? I could bet there is. That includes companies other than northern dene and national.

I would also like to know just how many customers you think we have. If we dont fly that much, how are we still in business, we arent in bankruptcy protection like some air carriers, so we must be doing something right, right?

Cheers

Apache

DKO · Post by **DKO** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:17 pm

Other then the clown that landed there, no one knows what this strip is made of. It's peer "SAND". They cleared a few trees and that's it. He even said that he needed half power just to keep from sinking out of site. It could be 10,000 feet for all I care, but if you can't get rolling it doesn't matter how long it is, not to mention how hard all that sand is on the machine. That one trip in there cost the company more than they made in the long run.

pogeypilot · Post by **pogeypilot** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:57 am

What ever ya figure DKO. Ya should spend more time worrying about your own guys in La Ronge...you know with all the sand bars and all. And keep those T/O's spaced on the dock. I hear it can get pretty tight in there.

Fly safe all.

beer · Post by **beer** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:07 am

DKO, you should be quiet and let this one die. Your clown got a runway report from the operator, got that report confirmed from a C-414 driver. Have you ever seen a 414 tire? If anything would sink out of sight it would be that machine. Someone with your wisdom is going to have to learn some understanding because all the rest of us are just learning and doing our best to stay safe. Unless you want to tell us who you are so we can phone you and get your opinion on anything we are unsure of? An old fella once told me if I ever get to the point in my life were I have nothing left to learn in aviation, that is the day I should retire. DKO I hope your RRSP's are topped up or you have another carreer in mind because your attitude is going to catch you.

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