Notice to Air….Flight Service!

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Notice to Air….Flight Service!

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What is it with you guys spitting out the ATIS faster than an auctioneer on meth? Spare a thought for us poor souls on the other end of the line trying to write things down so we get it all without having to listen two or three times.

(Looking at you, Prince George tower, and Nanaimo radio!)
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There should be a rule that the ATIS identifier should be repeated at least once every 10 seconds.
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Atis for runway conditions should be on a seperate local vhf freq. in busy terminal airspace freq. Im sure many would agree. By the time ya all get to the end of an atis message in a busy terminal space . Even if yur 100miles from the approach , the atis with runway conditions is far toooo fkn long ( takes alot to get oldn cold riled ) we want to know wind / altimeter / vis/ceiling/pressure to update the fms to set up for briefing to approach n landing all the while. Stayn on top of up to 7 freq changes / yes thats the job > but waitn 2 min while the atis drones on thru 2or 3 non active or wont be cleared to land on runways. Major pain
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oldncold wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:39 pm Atis for runway conditions should be on a seperate local vhf freq. in busy terminal airspace freq. Im sure many would agree. By the time ya all get to the end of an atis message in a busy terminal space . Even if yur 100miles from the approach , the atis with runway conditions is far toooo fkn long ( takes alot to get oldn cold riled ) we want to know wind / altimeter / vis/ceiling/pressure to update the fms to set up for briefing to approach n landing all the while. Stayn on top of up to 7 freq changes / yes thats the job > but waitn 2 min while the atis drones on thru 2or 3 non active or wont be cleared to land on runways. Major pain
Just print it out of the ACARS. Most places have D-ATIS.
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digits_ wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:42 pm There should be a rule that the ATIS identifier should be repeated at least once every 10 seconds.
Windsor Airport information Gulf. Winds 360 at Gulf 10 gusting Gulfteen. Viability 20 Gulf miles. 2 gulf thousand feet bro-gulf-Ken. Advise Gulf your have information Gulf.

Reminds me of the meow game from Super Troopers
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PropDog wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:12 pm
digits_ wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:42 pm There should be a rule that the ATIS identifier should be repeated at least once every 10 seconds.
Windsor Airport information Gulf. Winds 360 at Gulf 10 gusting Gulfteen. Viability 20 Gulf miles. 2 gulf thousand feet bro-gulf-Ken. Advise Gulf your have information Gulf.

Reminds me of the meow game from Super Troopers
That's a very smurfy way to smurf this. I'd totally smurf that.
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"SIOUX Radio hello, it's hot-mess 1 with uhhhhh....the latest."
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2112 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:06 pm "SIOUX Radio hello, it's hot-mess 1 with uhhhhh....the latest."
For taxi-out, absolutely. I can see the sky condition out my window, set the altimeter to field elevation, and he’s going to tell me the wind on initial contact anyways…
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mmm...bacon wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:03 pm What is it with you guys spitting out the ATIS faster than an auctioneer on meth? Spare a thought for us poor souls on the other end of the line trying to write things down so we get it all without having to listen two or three times.

(Looking at you, Prince George tower, and Nanaimo radio!)
That's funny. Nanaimo radio are generally the most chilled out Nav Can employees around, and I find their ATIS is generally pretty easy to get the 3 or 4 bits of info needed. Last summer I landed there and switched over to ground and it took a while for the guy to reply...when he did, it sounded like we had woken him up from his afternoon nap. Victoria Terminal are a bit quicker, and I've had to ask them to repeat themselves a few times.
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:lol:
digits_ wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:40 pm
PropDog wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:12 pm
digits_ wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:42 pm There should be a rule that the ATIS identifier should be repeated at least once every 10 seconds.
Windsor Airport information Gulf. Winds 360 at Gulf 10 gusting Gulfteen. Viability 20 Gulf miles. 2 gulf thousand feet bro-gulf-Ken. Advise Gulf your have information Gulf.

Reminds me of the meow game from Super Troopers
That's a very smurfy way to smurf this. I'd totally smurf that.
😂
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