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C 46 engine out

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Anyone know what happened with FNT's C46. Its been sitting in CYIV all weekend with the right prop feathered. If they shut it down, job well done in getting that pig to the airport safely!!
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Interesting place for an engine change....
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Rumor has it that the engine quit 40 miles back and they had a full load. Limped in on the good engine and they shut down on the taxi way as it was red lined on the temps, now there is question as to whether both engines will need replacing or just the one that was feathered.

Kudos to the crew.
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" job well done in getting that pig to the airport safely!! "

Why would you refer to a C46 as a pig? :roll:
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There's a C46 "parked" on the rocks just north of Churchill airport called Miss Piggy.
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Post by Hedley »

Most piston twins are pigs on one engine when they're heavily loaded ... does anyone know of a piston twin that will climb at say 1000 fpm at ISA sea level at max gross on one engine, especially with less than perfect pilot technique?
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" Most piston twins are pigs on one engine when they're heavily loaded ... does anyone know of a piston twin that will climb at say 1000 fpm at ISA sea level at max gross on one engine, especially with less than perfect pilot technique? "

How about the Grumman F7F Tigercat?

So we should not fly piston engine airplanes because they do not perform as well as turbines?

Then lets ground all piston multi engine airplanes for safety reasons.
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Post by Hedley »

the Grumman F7F Tigercat?
heh ... I would give your left nut to fly a Tigercat, or the rare twin mustang P-82:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-82_Twin_Mustang

Not too many on the Canadian civil aircraft registry, though :cry:

P.S. There is no doubt that piston aircraft don't have the excess power of the turbines, and on the subject of piloting technique, piston twins don't exactly often have autofeather, either.

P.P.S. Try to honestly tell me that you don't get wood when you click on:

http://www.baslerturbo.com/
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Hedley:

When I was parked for the all day public question headache at the last airshow I flew in Europe last year I fu.kin near fainted when I spotted a dark blue tigercat parked a few rows in front of us....

..it was the first one I ever seen up close and when he did his airdisplay I was blown away with its performance...the fuc.in thing is just two big engines with a pilot sitting between them...

...funny thing...I spent most of the day talking to the pilot and he was the same age as me..but watching him wring out that Tigercat you would never guess he was to old to fly. :smilebig:

And yeh, I'd like to fly a Bazler 3, Africa has lots of them but I never got to fly one...

..so I'm stuck with this...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/ ... 010045.jpg

Life is unfair.

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FIFI is a beautiful lady. Boy do i miss the dak's somedays
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How many square feet inside a C-46? I smell a new house on the reserve! Cut a hole in the bottom and your plumbing needs are taken care of. :lol:
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If it's at it's designed weight, it would have had no problems flying on one engine. Loaded the way bigh twins tend to be in the area, well, that's different story. He may well have had better performance had he actually shut the thing down, and feathered the prop, rather than "dragging" it in as he did (if it was shut down on the ramp, as stated) A "semi-failed" engine will often create more drag than a feathered engine. Not to mention the damage you do to an engine that should be shut down! Now, I wasen't there, and the crew could well have felt, that, due to their load, they needed to bake the sick engine?
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And Cat.......on the subject of the Tigercat...long been my fav! The A10 is a close second!
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Cat Driver wrote:the fuc.in thing is just two big engines with a pilot sitting between them...
*drools*

Where was the pilot based? I want to know if I stand a chance in hell of ever seeing one of these beasts fly.
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Doc: The C-46 is a different kind of beast. I have no doubt that the the original Supercharged U.S. Air Force version would fly on a cold day on one engine at today's max gross weight (the original military gross weight was in the high fifties somewhere) of 48,000lbs. If the engine in fact failed or stopped producing power 40NM out they did a good job " bringing her back"! The thing is grandfatherclaused and does not have to meet any modern day TC performance requirements such as "balanced field". So if you happen to arrive at V1 past the departing end of the runway, so be it!
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Never flown a C46...would love to!! I have brought a Dak home on one..several times...sometimes perhaps a tat over the 26900 pounds it really should have been at? A C46 could do the same? Yes? No?
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It depends largely on the conditions. On a cold day, no problem! On a cool day, probably! On a hot day, forget about it!! Great plane though. Extremely challenging in x-winds. Most of the ones that survived the war have been wrecked in x-wind take-offs and landings. And as you can imagine, pushing 4000lbs skids of tiles uphill in the winter with snow on the floor has its challenges. That is if you did not slip and fall off the wing fuelling and oiling it before that. Next to x-wind conditions the second most challenging thing about the c-46 is fueling and oiling with frost on the wings :wink:
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Yeah and a new source for sniffing solvents as well...
grounded wrote:How many square feet inside a C-46? I smell a new house on the reserve! Cut a hole in the bottom and your plumbing needs are taken care of. :lol:
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