Do the Executives send former ACPA Reps thank you cards

[Freshredmeat]

Honest question:

Does Air Canada send thank you cards to former ACPA Reps for helping them with their $31 million in compensation?

Having the lowest paid North American pilots by a large margin must be something they celebrate with their North American leading executive compensation

[FNGYYZ]

Honest question:

Does Air Canada send thank you cards to former ACPA Reps for helping them with their $31 million in compensation?

Having the lowest paid North American pilots by a large margin must be something they celebrate with their North American leading executive compensation

Lol...indeed

ACPA certainly left its mark on the industry

[eurotrash]

AC Management was always very public with their appreciation of ACPA

They thanked ACPA Reps at public events even thanking the Association in company memos

They are now dealing with a modern day union and aren't sure what to do

[Inverted2]

That’s wonderful that management can give themselves millions in bonuses. They are basically saying they will have no problems giving the pilots a proper wage during negotiations.

[GeoffPilot]

That’s wonderful that management can give themselves millions in bonuses. They are basically saying they will have no problems giving the pilots a proper wage during negotiations.

Issue is they are rewarding their metrics of being profitable off the backs of having industry leading cheap pilots

ACPA handed them their bonuses

Now ALPA will have to claw back these Executives to reality that they are going to have to run a profitable airline with industry leading paid pilots

[alkaseltzer]

AC Management was always very public with their appreciation of ACPA

They thanked ACPA Reps at public events even thanking the Association in company memos

They are now dealing with a modern day union and aren't sure what to do

Little birdie told me they were rehearsing the Jerusalema dance choreography...trying to send out good vibes...

[Ratherbe]

AC Management was always very public with their appreciation of ACPA

They thanked ACPA Reps at public events even thanking the Association in company memos

They are now dealing with a modern day union and aren't sure what to do

"Always" is a pretty strong word.

I guess this doesn't count?

https://www-theglobeandmail-com.cdn.amp ... 8241263%2F

[Ratherbe]

Or maybe these ones:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/air-cana ... e-1.235740

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 87c3023f6/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglo ... le4099954/

Let's stop trying to re-write history and try sticking together to make history.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

I wonder if legal action will be taken against ACPA leaders one day. I mean when the real truth comes out.

[dumpsterfire]

Lol...

Quoting articles from 12 to 24 years ago

ACPA was a complete dumpsterfire at the end

The reps were best case delusional and worst case corrupt. Perhaps both

There are no excuses for the poor metrics of that organization that was supposed to be a union that became a lapdog to the company and way for union staff to profit

Disgusting and bravo to the people that made a very necessary change

[RochVoisine]

BZ to this amazing ALPA MEC Chair:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/70 ... nt-improve

[JackLeCoq]

P4C has been very clear that they want to leave ACPA and join ALPA. That is what is motivating them and driving their decisions.
The AC pilots on the other hand have been very clear that they want pay raises not the distraction of a union drive.
Obviously this MOA would be bad news for P4C as it shows that ACPA with a new Chair and Negots Team can deliver results despite the presence of a war and a recession.
Do you guys really think that we will be in a stronger position next year?
Capture the gains now.

RatherBe...still believe that we should have entered historic negotiations with ACPA?

Do you think any pilot at Air Canada in their right mind would have supported this definition of insanity

What's crazy, is that you were a former MEC Chair and fought against joining ALPA. What gives? Your ego? Personal vendetta against Pilots 4 Change which was the catalyst to the best MEC Chair Air Canada Pilots have ever seen?

Or sweeping & massive improvements to our union that has made this group the most unified & militant pilot group in North America?

Look around John. The pilots of Air Canada are winning even despite efforts from the previous reps in YUL to discredit the greatest union force ever assembled here

[RippleRock]

The fact is these guys are 100% traitors to the Membership. Full stop. I hope they are reminded of it every time they fly the line.

TL, a former NMEC member and advocate of unity and big supporter of the Constitution was literally "lynched" by the ruling ACPA Mob. He was sickened by the pure corruption and collusion rife at ACPA and was hell bent on revealing it. He paid a very heavy personal price.

Sickening is too nice a word. Never forget.

[MontrealCanucks]

Sorry P4C it's an obvious yes vote. Waiting for negots 2023 or 2024 to get some movement in the right direction is very risky. Secure the gains now.
You guys are losing credibility. You haven't achieved anything but divide the membership and undermine the new negotiating committee.

Vote yes and support the our negots team or vote no and support the lunatics....again

Lol Ratherbe...you still believe it is the "lunatics" that voted down that MOA trash at 80%

Or the 84% that voted to merge with ALPA?

You have to be a Group of 27. Clueless.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

If there's any evidence of corruption or false representation would it have come out by now? Or could it still be yet to come?

[Protonpilot]

TL, a former NMEC member and advocate of unity and big supporter of the Constitution was literally "lynched" by the ruling ACPA Mob. He was sickened by the pure corruption and collusion rife at ACPA and was hell bent on revealing it. He paid a very heavy personal price.

A conspiracy theorist. Nothing more.

Can we please move on?

Most of us voted to join ALPA for very good reasons. TL's theory of deep state corruption within the union wasn't one of them.

[RippleRock]

TL, a former NMEC member and advocate of unity and big supporter of the Constitution was literally "lynched" by the ruling ACPA Mob. He was sickened by the pure corruption and collusion rife at ACPA and was hell bent on revealing it. He paid a very heavy personal price.

A conspiracy theorist. Nothing more.

Can we please move on?

Most of us voted to join ALPA for very good reasons. TL's theory of deep state corruption within the union wasn't one of them.

Ya....no way ACPA was corrupt. Right. Tony was aware of many things. He was probably the most intelligent individual to ever represent us. It didn't take "deep state thinking" to add 2 and 2.

"Theories" about "deep state" aren't required, just take two seconds to look at the results ACPA has brought. If that isn't a form of corruption, or at minimum, a complete distortion of the Constitution, I don't know what is.

[Protonpilot]

Tony was aware of many things. He was probably the most intelligent individual to ever represent us.

You're funny.

[RippleRock]

Tony was aware of many things. He was probably the most intelligent individual to ever represent us.

You're funny.

You're not making it a challenge to figure out who you are. If you weren't on Tony's side, you were on the other. If you aren't 100% certain about the guy, because you aren't, you shouldn't be commenting.

Doesn't matter really. For the most part, ACPA sympathizers have been neutered. You can still see a few wondering about "looking smug" with the old lanyards on.

[Protonpilot]

You're not making it a challenge to figure out who you are. If you weren't on Tony's side, you were on the other. If you aren't 100% certain about the guy, because you aren't, you shouldn't be commenting.

Actually, I'm 100% certain. Have you watched any of the videos he posted online, like the one where he gets fired by his own lawyers? Intelligent, you say?
Have you read the arbitrator's report that threw him out of his union and banned him from ever holding elected office again? Ever wonder why there's heightened security around the ALPA YYZ office now (fob access, etc...)? Threats of violence from your man. It's why the arbitrator issued a restraining order against him back in the day.

Did you know that the current ALPA MEC holds a restraining order against him?