Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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Not likely, but it was attempted recently....

C-FHZP, a Bell Helicopter Textron Inc. model 206 Jet Ranger operated by Airborne Energy
Solutions Inc. was being operated in support of annual recurrent training of company pilots. On the
occurrence flight, there was one flight instructor and one company pilot on board, and the exercise
being performed was a 180-degree, descending auto-rotation with a planned power-on recovery.
The maneuver commenced on the downwind leg of the traffic pattern. The power was reduced by
the flight instructor and the pilot entered the auto-rotative descending turn with the intention of
landing on the first third of Runway 11. After completion of the 180-degree turn and as the
helicopter approached the runway surface, the pilot under instruction pulled aft on the cyclic in
order to reduce the helicopters forward velocity, and up collective to reduce the rate of decent.
Concurrently, the flight instructor re-applied engine power with the intention that the helicopter
would not contact the runway surface but enter into a hover condition. As these events occurred
near simultaneously, the helicopters tail boom made contact with the runway surface. When this
occurred, the main rotor struck the aft section of the tail boom and severed it from the helicopter.
The fuselage of the helicopter skidded approximately 20-30 feet along the runway while remaining
upright with the engine running. Not knowing that the tail boom had been severed, the instructor
pilot attempted to lift the helicopter into a hover; however, it was then immediately realized that
there was a problem with the tail rotor control. The instructor pilot reduced power and shut the
helicopter down. There were no injuries to either pilot. The helicopter was significantly damaged.



......from TSB.
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Re: Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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NO a helicopter can't lit off with out a tail rotor.
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Re: Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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godsrcrazy wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:28 am NO a helicopter can't lit off with out a tail rotor.
Welllllllll......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAR
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Re: Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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pelmet wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:13 pm
godsrcrazy wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:28 am NO a helicopter can't lit off with out a tail rotor.
Welllllllll......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAR
Even a Notar has a tail boom. The incident report shows a Bell 206. SmartA$$
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Re: Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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Can you fly a helicopter with no training and no instructor ?

"What's going on Jim, what's the matter with is guy". Note the demonstration of tailboom separation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAwwKoz8Diw
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Re: Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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godsrcrazy wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:24 am
pelmet wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:13 pm
godsrcrazy wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:28 am NO a helicopter can't lit off with out a tail rotor.
Welllllllll......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAR
Even a Notar has a tail boom. The incident report shows a Bell 206. SmartA$$
But the incident helicopter did not.
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Re: Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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With counter-rotating rotors.
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Re: Can a Helicopter Takeoff With no Tailboom?

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godsrcrazy wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:28 am NO a helicopter can't lit off with out a tail rotor.
**** wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:57 pm With counter-rotating rotors.
Have always been fascinated with this type since the first time I saw one in Arizona many years back....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7vRl1sFFFs
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