One little mistake can make all the difference

[Blakey]

Crash reconstruction simulation of the C5 crash at Dover. A simple error that is easy to make but one that had drastic consequences. Pay attention to the correlation between N2 indication and throttle position.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogalle ... 5_Crash.wm

[Troubleshot]

I don't mean to sound like someone that doesn't take crashes seriously but you gotta say those videos are very interesting to watch...so much can be learned so quickly and can answer alot of questions just by pushing play.

[Bede]

Easy to do I guess. I heard of an F28 that took off without one engine developing any power. It wasn't until a deadhead in the jumpseat pointed out that the N2 was suprisingly low.

[talkinghead]

How many pilots/eng. in the front of thing ?
There sure is a lot of cross-talk going on!

[oates76]

Wow, so it looks like they forgot which engine was dead, and left engine three at idle after turning final when they should have instead left engine 2 (the one that was originally out) at idle? Does that make sense?

[yak driver]

I wonder if their SOP's say anything about operating all power levers together once the engine has been secured?

[DC6driver]

Pilot, copilot, training captain, checkpilot, and base commander on board at time of accident

[Howitzer]

Very interesting video. I could see how this could occur. I seen that as soon as the power leavers were handed over, the new person running them misplaced which engine was out, and how they would be anticipating #3 low N1, where the other pilot would be anticipating #2 N1, and each would be focused on that particular guage, failing to recognize the each others guage. That's what i see in this anyways.

Wasn't it in the late 80's when a plane in the Washington, DC area had an improper setting of the power leavers on take off, or a failure of some sort, and they crashed into the Potomac River, killing almost all on board?

[Troubleshot]

Very interesting video. I could see how this could occur. I seen that as soon as the power leavers were handed over, the new person running them misplaced which engine was out, and how they would be anticipating #3 low N1, where the other pilot would be anticipating #2 N1, and each would be focused on that particular guage, failing to recognize the each others guage. That's what i see in this anyways.

Wasn't it in the late 80's when a plane in the Washington, DC area had an improper setting of the power leavers on take off, or a failure of some sort, and they crashed into the Potomac River, killing almost all on board?

Yeah that was EPR settings...he thought he was making good power, and obiviously wasn't due to a plugged EPR line.

[greenwich]

Man, those recreations are amazing!

I like how their below glide-slope for the entire approach...they never even got close to it. And all along they're drifting down at aroung 500'/min!

This while they're talking about "brake temp", and "landing firmly"!

And I noticed too that they bring power to idle as they are turning final...just for a couple seconds, but they are low and slow!

And the "flaps full" was another bad one. The PF calls for flaps 40 a couple miles back...and they're already at full.

Crazt sh1t!

G

[scubasteve]

that was pretty interesting to watch for sure. I wonder if the number of people on board and their status had any influence ie. having the training capt aboard made the pilot behave in a different manner than on a regular flight. Having that many eyes and opinions and all that chatter probably made things a little confusing. It would appear that someone other than the captain decided to put flaps down early since they were full when he called for flaps 40. also not the straightest final approach i've seen...not that I'm the greatest either

[. ._]

Pretty scary stuff.