Commuting from Florida
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Commuting from Florida
Hi all,
I am dual citizen USA and Canada I am looking at the option of moving to Florida and commuting to work at AC from there (have not managed to find work in the US yet, before anyone asks).
Anyone here has experience with that, or generally commuting from the US? How are the flights generally? How do people do it regarding benefits in Canada. I am assuming they still partly apply, but things like OHIP would not since you do not have residence in the US anymore.
Thanks for any input!
I am dual citizen USA and Canada I am looking at the option of moving to Florida and commuting to work at AC from there (have not managed to find work in the US yet, before anyone asks).
Anyone here has experience with that, or generally commuting from the US? How are the flights generally? How do people do it regarding benefits in Canada. I am assuming they still partly apply, but things like OHIP would not since you do not have residence in the US anymore.
Thanks for any input!
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Hey, I haven't actually done it yet, but I was planning on taking a job outside the country before it evaporated, and went through all the steps. There are some guys here that can kick in more info, but here's what I know, if it helps;
You could probably meet the 180 day residency if you wanted between reporting, res, and flying (Flying in CA airspace counts) if you wanted to keep it, but given FLA's low or nil state income tax you'd probably do a lot better by renouncing.
You just cancel your drivers license and OHIP card, and you also stop paying into CPP (And I believe EI but double-check that). Whatever you collect is based on contributions. You can still collect CPP at 60 as a non-resident.
You can keep assets here like property, just don't make it look like it's a primary residence.
The commute must be the easiest in the US, every CDN and US airline has a ton of direct YYZ-MCO/MIA/FLL.... but the loads are high as well.
Good luck, if I could I'd be doing the same!
You could probably meet the 180 day residency if you wanted between reporting, res, and flying (Flying in CA airspace counts) if you wanted to keep it, but given FLA's low or nil state income tax you'd probably do a lot better by renouncing.
You just cancel your drivers license and OHIP card, and you also stop paying into CPP (And I believe EI but double-check that). Whatever you collect is based on contributions. You can still collect CPP at 60 as a non-resident.
You can keep assets here like property, just don't make it look like it's a primary residence.
The commute must be the easiest in the US, every CDN and US airline has a ton of direct YYZ-MCO/MIA/FLL.... but the loads are high as well.
Good luck, if I could I'd be doing the same!
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Although you said don’t mention it, I would work on getting a job there. You have dual citizenship. Most of us only dream of that.
Even if you go to a 2nd rate carrier like Spirit or Frontier, you’ll probably make more down there and not have to deal with the commuting hassle. If you add up all the commuting days per year and all the associated fees etc…. The YYZ airport improvement tax is now $35 I believe.
Even if you go to a 2nd rate carrier like Spirit or Frontier, you’ll probably make more down there and not have to deal with the commuting hassle. If you add up all the commuting days per year and all the associated fees etc…. The YYZ airport improvement tax is now $35 I believe.
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I commute from Phoenix to Toronto for work. Still a manitoba resident (no green card yet) it sucks but realistically no worse than say YVR to yyz.
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The goal is definitely to get a job down there.. but with the slowdown since the beginning of this year I have not had much feedback sadly.
I did some reading last night about what benefits etc you're still entitled to. Seems that things like EI and CPP are still applicable as long as I work for AC. Only the provincial stuff like OHIP etc stops.
I did some reading last night about what benefits etc you're still entitled to. Seems that things like EI and CPP are still applicable as long as I work for AC. Only the provincial stuff like OHIP etc stops.
How do you find it making the flights? I guess there is not much competition for the jumpseat at least.
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Very much so. Looking forward to Porter starting daily flights in October
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Keep in mind if you plan on retiring in the US you'll need 40 quarters of work history to get your Medicare covered. You'll also want to have enough paid into social security to get benefits there. You need 10 years of work history in the US to make retirement here feasible.
In my experience the medical system has been significantly better in the US than Canada. That's assuming you have excellent health insurance. I have been able to get in with specialists same day. MRI's same day. Excellent facilities. Actually have a family doctor which I never did in Canada.
The exchange rate kills your Canadian earnings. My wife still works in Canada and even with a six figure income after I covert her paycheck it's kind of a joke. I take home more than triple.
I'd highly recommend getting a flying job in the U.S.
In my experience the medical system has been significantly better in the US than Canada. That's assuming you have excellent health insurance. I have been able to get in with specialists same day. MRI's same day. Excellent facilities. Actually have a family doctor which I never did in Canada.
The exchange rate kills your Canadian earnings. My wife still works in Canada and even with a six figure income after I covert her paycheck it's kind of a joke. I take home more than triple.
I'd highly recommend getting a flying job in the U.S.
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Hey Stinky,
That's absolutely the plan - but I want to do it wisely nonetheless. While AC does pay peanuts, at least its a safe job and I don't risk being furloughed from one second to the next. What I am aiming for is a US major or at least well established LCC - just something more or less equivalent in terms of job security. I habe a CJO from Atlas, but them too have stopped courses until early 2025.
Who are you with?
That's absolutely the plan - but I want to do it wisely nonetheless. While AC does pay peanuts, at least its a safe job and I don't risk being furloughed from one second to the next. What I am aiming for is a US major or at least well established LCC - just something more or less equivalent in terms of job security. I habe a CJO from Atlas, but them too have stopped courses until early 2025.
Who are you with?
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Move to Florida and work for anybody based there and it will still be better QOL than commuting and working in Canada.tupues wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:03 am Hi all,
I am dual citizen USA and Canada I am looking at the option of moving to Florida and commuting to work at AC from there (have not managed to find work in the US yet, before anyone asks).
Anyone here has experience with that, or generally commuting from the US? How are the flights generally? How do people do it regarding benefits in Canada. I am assuming they still partly apply, but things like OHIP would not since you do not have residence in the US anymore.
Thanks for any input!
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Have you looked at Netjets? Great commuting/home based options, plenty of planes in FLA, and the WAWCON absolutely destroys any Canadian operator incl 705. They've been hiring as their 300-350k capt pay doesn't match airlines..... 

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Behind the times Dan. (Sorry) Flexjet is where it’s at as far as Part 135 ops are concerned.
A friend of mine recently moved towards better pastures after a rather long stint there as one of the assistant chief pilots. We recently spoke about the Flex vs Nets pro’s and cons and it was rather interesting.
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Story of my life!
Last info I had was about 3 years ago from a NetJet dude who lived in Montana. Said it was the best job on the planet and would never consider leaving. Got to live on his ranch, made 300k and they flew him out for work.
It's crazy that things could be much better than that, compared with the scraps we get here.
Last info I had was about 3 years ago from a NetJet dude who lived in Montana. Said it was the best job on the planet and would never consider leaving. Got to live on his ranch, made 300k and they flew him out for work.
It's crazy that things could be much better than that, compared with the scraps we get here.
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LOL, 2nd rate carrier? Not probably, I definitely make a shit ton more money at my US "second rate carrier" than you do in Canada, no matter who you fly for or what you fly. Full stop. You'd probably make more at a regional in the US than you make at a "Mainline" in Canada.Inverted2 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:37 am Although you said don’t mention it, I would work on getting a job there. You have dual citizenship. Most of us only dream of that.
Even if you go to a 2nd rate carrier like Spirit or Frontier, you’ll probably make more down there and not have to deal with the commuting hassle. If you add up all the commuting days per year and all the associated fees etc…. The YYZ airport improvement tax is now $35 I believe.
Don't commute to Canada. Move to Florida and get a job here (or TN, TX both also have no income tax) Done.
Best decision I ever made, only regret is not leaving sooner.