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City commissioner says “something happened to the airplane at a location remote to the impact”. Dash cam footage shows the plane coming down at about an 80° angle. Seems pretty clear to me that the tail departed the airplane shortly after takeoff.
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atc_is_god wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:02 am City commissioner says “something happened to the airplane at a location remote to the impact”. Dash cam footage shows the plane coming down at about an 80° angle. Seems pretty clear to me that the tail departed the airplane shortly after takeoff.
Jesus christ....looks like American stupidity has spread up north.... :roll:
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boeingboy wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:14 am
atc_is_god wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:02 am City commissioner says “something happened to the airplane at a location remote to the impact”. Dash cam footage shows the plane coming down at about an 80° angle. Seems pretty clear to me that the tail departed the airplane shortly after takeoff.
Jesus christ....looks like American stupidity has spread up north.... :roll: I might be stupid, but isn't north and south of the US America?
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atc_is_god wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:02 am City commissioner says “something happened to the airplane at a location remote to the impact”. Dash cam footage shows the plane coming down at about an 80° angle. Seems pretty clear to me that the tail departed the airplane shortly after takeoff.
So the tail has been recovered in an area different from the crash site?
Or are you basing this on a fuzzy video?
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What part of the airplane would you suggest would have found itself in a remote location that would lead to the kind of pitch control issues we are seeing on that video?

I’m drawing upon 30 years of flying and ATC experience. What are you drawing upon?
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Airborne less than a minute, banked right, then left, then steep decent to crash site and saying still unable to locate the CVR.
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cdnavater wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 8:42 am Airborne less than a minute, banked right, then left, then steep decent to crash site and saying still unable to locate the CVR.
They got the CVR
https://6abc.com/post/us-transportation ... /15864180/

I'm actually quite surprised it was equipped with one.
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"CVR likely hadn't been working in years "

https://apnews.com/article/philadelphia ... newsletter
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So they haven’t yet revealed which part of the airplane fell off upon takeoff according to that report.
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atc_is_god wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:30 am So they haven’t yet revealed which part of the airplane fell off upon takeoff according to that report.
:roll:
Nothing fell off of it.
Most likely spatial disorientation.
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