what happened to the Pope thread that was here?

twice_banned · Post by **twice_banned** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:41 pm

What happened to the pope thread that was here, talking about him scolding Canadian society?

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:18 pm

My guess is battle pope shitkicked everyone so there is no longer anything to discuss...

Beacon Final · Post by **Beacon Final** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:45 pm

who the hell does he think he is....

he was in the NAZI party back in his day! Give me a break..... hes a chump

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:09 pm

C'mon now! That only makes sense! The Catholic Church collaborated with the NAZIs...

Oh, oh that's no good. This'll probably get clipped...

taxiway_matthew · Post by **taxiway_matthew** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:15 pm

Beacon Final wrote:who the hell does he think he is....

he was in the NAZI party back in his day! Give me a break..... hes a chump

Yeaa, because teens chose whether or not they wanted to be in the Hitler Youth. Yeah, thats it..Hitler didn't force them, Hitler? Forcing people to do stuff he wants? Uncanny

... · Post by **...** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:40 pm

didn't the Pope die like a year ago? Isn't it the same guy that came to Toronto @ the Esso in centre field made that little girl cry or something?
I thought he was Polish.

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:09 am

The Polish one died, the new one is German.

I love how they 'elect' someone to be the new guy who speaks directly to, and on behalf of, God. Shouldn't God choose who gets the big red phone?

I just don't get religion.

... · Post by **...** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:30 am

mellow_pilot wrote:The Polish one died, the new one is German.

oh.

when you say 'new' does that mean he's in his late 30's?

Also I thought they get elected every 4 years?

Spinner · Post by **Spinner** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:45 am

maybe they should put a thirty year old in there it might perk up the church a little.

this new pope is what 70 or 80 something. He is there for life unless he does something really stupid.

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:16 pm

They chose an old one so that he wouldn't be in as long a the last one, I think John Paul's was the second longest term or something.

Beacon Final · Post by **Beacon Final** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:03 pm

taxiway_matthew i dont think he minded being in the Hitler youth. Dont tell me anyone can hide behind being forced to join after doing what those bastards did. I know some where forced but most worshiped Adolf. Either way the man was a NAZI, and should not hold that office.....

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taxiway_matthew · Post by **taxiway_matthew** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:38 pm

Beacon Final wrote:taxiway_matthew i dont think he minded being in the Hitler youth. Dont tell me anyone can hide behind being forced to join after doing what those bastards did. I know some where forced but most worshiped Adolf. Either way the man was a NAZI, and should not hold that office.....

Oh well I'm sure you don't mind because you talk to him often don't you and you really know what exactly happened in his early years didn't you? Of course you did, because how else would you come to the assumption he 'didn't mind'.

I love how they 'elect' someone to be the new guy who speaks directly to, and on behalf of, God. Shouldn't God choose who gets the big red phone?

Knowing the variety of cardinals with respect to the political spectrum, you get a feeling God directs the way the ballot is swung. Of course silly me, I was expecting him to walk into the conclave and tell them who..God always does things like that.

C'mon now! That only makes sense! The Catholic Church collaborated with the NAZIs...

Yeah, if you believe everything Cornwell wrote...of course if you really knew your history, then this wouldn't be the case

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:18 pm

Pope made a deal with Musollini. He was allied with Hitler. There's a link even if you don't believe the direct collaboration took place.

Here's a real dumb question that I don't think anyone will be able to answer to my satisfaction.

If God and angles were so keen to lay down the law and talk to people face to face back in the day, why won't he/they show up to clarify some of the issues that different sects (catholic, protestant, baptist, etc.) are arguing over now?

(including who gets the pope-phone)

Nah-nah nah-nah nah-nah nah-nah... POPE-MAN!!!!! (does he get a utility belt too?)

taxiway_matthew · Post by **taxiway_matthew** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:44 pm

mellow_pilot wrote:Pope made a deal with Musollini. He was allied with Hitler. There's a link even if you don't believe the direct collaboration took place.

Here's a real dumb question that I don't think anyone will be able to answer to my satisfaction.

If God and angles were so keen to lay down the law and talk to people face to face back in the day, why won't he/they show up to clarify some of the issues that different sects (catholic, protestant, baptist, etc.) are arguing over now?

(including who gets the pope-phone)

Nah-nah nah-nah nah-nah nah-nah... POPE-MAN!!!!! (does he get a utility belt too?)

Because Hes revealed everything Hes needed to reveal. Before hand with the Jews, he was revealing stuff in anticipation of the coming of Christ..which has happened, ergo, He no longer needs to reveal anything...one of the reasons apparitions aren't essential to faith.

As for the Hitler thing, I'd like to see some evidence, no offence, but you saying it doesn't really convince me

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:25 pm

As for the God thing, I'd like to see some evidence, no offence, but you saying it doesn't really convince me.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:52 am

It was in the news recently around here that the Catholic church in Cornwall, Ontario was seeking an injunction against an investigation into wide-spread child molestation in that city.

I am not making this up.

It would seem that the Catholic church has lots of money to spend on lawyers to make sure that the truth is NOT revealed about child molestation in that city.

One can't help but wonder why, and ponder that perhaps a church has better uses for it's money than for lawyers. How about feeding the hungry? Clothing the poor? Not if you're the Catholic church.

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:43 am

While I didn't yank your thread, I would expect that one of the triggering items posted in the forum rules caused it to go away.

Perhaps instead of whining, you could go back, and have a wee glance at those rules. Perhaps then, you won't have to re-post from a different computer as "Thrice Banned."

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:39 am

Hedley wrote:It was in the news recently around here that the Catholic church in Cornwall, Ontario was seeking an injunction against an investigation into wide-spread child molestation in that city.

I am not making this up.

It would seem that the Catholic church has lots of money to spend on lawyers to make sure that the truth is NOT revealed about child molestation in that city.

One can't help but wonder why, and ponder that perhaps a church has better uses for it's money than for lawyers. How about feeding the hungry? Clothing the poor? Not if you're the Catholic church.

Interesting note; Under Canon Law (AKA Vatican Law, AKA what all priests/bishops/brothers/nuns etc… swear to follow) You are justified in doing just about anything if it will save the Church from negative publicity. (I forgot what section it falls under and am far to uninterested to look it up so here ya go)

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_INDEX.HTM

Beacon Final · Post by **Beacon Final** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:27 am

taxiway_matthew

The catholic church is not the most innocent group in the world.

ALTER BOYS mean anything to you.

Give it up man. The pope is EVIL!!!!! Any religion that makes you give up sex is not cool man.... you cant fight nature. The catholic church settles millions of dollars everyday over sexual abuse scandles. The pope was a NAZI and who knows what else he is into. And anyone who defends him is a alterboy by choice!

boo ya

tellyourkidstogetarealjob · Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:54 am

mellow_pilot wrote:Pope...was allied with Hitler. There's a link even if you don't believe the direct collaboration took place.

BS. Pope Pius XII failed to defend those the nazis persecuted and totally ignored his ethical and spiritual mandate but he was never "allied" with Hitler.

For that matter, there were a lot of people who ignored their ethical obligations in 1939 but were never in league with Hitler. This includes atheists.

There were also many thousands of RC priests who disagreed with their pope, opposed the nazis, and paid for it with a trip to the gas chamber.

If I remember rightly, the late pope John Paul II apologized for the RC church's failure to oppose fascism.

tellyourkidstogetarealjob · Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:02 am

Beacon Final wrote:Any religion that makes you give up sex is not cool man.... you cant fight nature.

Congratulations, that's quite a feat. You've managed to put forward an argument that could be used to both condemn the policy toward clerical chastity and justify every kind of sexual deviance (paedophilia, sadism, necrophilia, bestiality, etc.) in one smooth move.

You might want to think that one out a little more carefully.

taxiway_matthew · Post by **taxiway_matthew** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:52 pm

tellyourkidstogetarealjob wrote:
mellow_pilot wrote:Pope...was allied with Hitler. There's a link even if you don't believe the direct collaboration took place.
BS. Pope Pius XII failed to defend those the nazis persecuted and totally ignored his ethical and spiritual mandate but he was never "allied" with Hitler.

For that matter, there were a lot of people who ignored their ethical obligations in 1939 but were never in league with Hitler. This includes atheists.

There were also many thousands of RC priests who disagreed with their pope, opposed the nazis, and paid for it with a trip to the gas chamber.

If I remember rightly, the late pope John Paul II apologized for the RC church's failure to oppose fascism.

even still, the Vatican hid many jews and gave fake passports to many others. But remember an organization such as the Vatican is very limited in what it can say, as was the case with about every other leader in Europe at the time

w squared · Post by **w squared** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:13 pm

Give me a break, taxi matt. Pius XII was very much in the fascist pocket preceding and during WWII. Courtesy of the separation of church and state, the Vatican has a great deal of freedom about what it says and does. Look at the major differences between the avowed policies of European countries and the pronunciations (or proclomations) on abortion, birth control, homosexuality, and preventing the spread of AIDS.

There were RC priests and clergy (as well as those of other denominations) who bucked the system and took great personal risk in order to help jews, gypsies, and others who were targets of the Nazi's quest for a racially and ideologically pure Europe...but they were individuals acting on their own beliefs. Their actions speak of a moral fibre that was obviously sorely lacking in those who were wielding ecclesiastical power at the time. If Pius XII had actually decided to do something about the Holocaust, he could have made a far greater difference. Instead, he and the rest of the world turned a blind eye.

If the international community (such as it was at the time) had made a concious decision to allow Jewish emigration from Germany at higher levels, then the death toll amongst Jews duing the holocaust would have been much lower. Pius XII could have gone a long way towards making this happen. All of that would have been easily possible throughout the 30's, and could have been done without putting the RC church or it's clergy in danger.

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