Southwest Airlines 737 nearly takes off from a taxiway

[rookiepilot]

https://x.com/aviationbrk/status/1902977107099099639

Southwest Airlines 737 nearly takes off from a taxiway at Orlando International Airport, the FAA have said.

An air traffic controller noticed the issue and stopped the flight's departure.

Sooner or later, near misses gonna become something else.

[rookiepilot]

https://youtu.be/6YyWOv1UJXw?si=tDFCtX7XvuwueDdO

Youtube video.

Hit 70 knots on the taxiway.

We certainly need to have empathy for this crew too.

Passenger quoted should be sued and banned from flying ever.

Sit down and shut up.

[Rooster69]

Are we seeing a dearth of experience in aviation, an abundance of incompetence, fatigue or a mixture off all? Most of the accidents and incidents lately are easily attributed to pilot error. Mid airs, hard landings, lining up on taxi ways? WTF is going on?

[Rooster69]

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[Dry Guy]

The sad part is companies won't improve training and experience requirements. They'll just switch to AI.

[‘Bob’]

Some aircraft are already equipped with Surface Management Systems that would have prevented this.

The more automation the better, these days.

[Grey_Wolf]

Interesting .... Layers placed in aviation, and still it gets through the "swiss cheese". Simply Wow!

- Reviewing NOTAM's
- Take-off Briefing
- Moving Map Charts (AMM) on the Electronic Flight Bag
- "Lined-up" SOP call(s)
- General Situational Awareness
- Challenging Non-normal situation via CRM

[‘Bob’]

The trouble is ‘more’ is often not better.

The solution always seems to add more things, not take them away.

So you have task saturated pilots who can’t see the forest for all the trees.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

Holy crap I agree with Bob.

[‘Bob’]

Holy crap I agree with Bob.

I can be something other than a shit disturber, sometimes.

Go Carney!

[Tbayer2021]

The trouble is ‘more’ is often not better.

The solution always seems to add more things, not take them away.

So you have task saturated pilots who can’t see the forest for all the trees.

Its an excellent point. We had an accidental gear up a few years ago at the museum I volunteer at. Some were calling for yet another gear down check at some point before touchdown. Saner minds brought up the fact that if the current 4 gear down checks that have to be performed on that type before landing didn't stop that accident, a 5th time won't either.

[pelmet]

The trouble is ‘more’ is often not better.

The solution always seems to add more things, not take them away.

So you have task saturated pilots who can’t see the forest for all the trees.

Its an excellent point. We had an accidental gear up a few years ago at the museum I volunteer at. Some were calling for yet another gear down check at some point before touchdown. Saner minds brought up the fact that if the current 4 gear down checks that have to be performed on that type before landing didn't stop that accident, a 5th time won't either.

It can be nice to have some sort of uncontrolled, instinctive thought that happens in your mind that reminds you to put the gear down. I can't say that it happens every time I am on final but very frequently in fixed gear aircraft, the words "gear down/props fine" is stated. Totally unnecessary in a fixed gear aircraft but I am glad I frequently get that thought as it may save me someday in another aircraft type.

[Tbayer2021]

The trouble is ‘more’ is often not better.

The solution always seems to add more things, not take them away.

So you have task saturated pilots who can’t see the forest for all the trees.

Its an excellent point. We had an accidental gear up a few years ago at the museum I volunteer at. Some were calling for yet another gear down check at some point before touchdown. Saner minds brought up the fact that if the current 4 gear down checks that have to be performed on that type before landing didn't stop that accident, a 5th time won't either.

It can be nice to have some sort of uncontrolled, instinctive thought that happens in your mind that reminds you to put the gear down. I can't say that it happens every time I am on final but very frequently in fixed gear aircraft, the words "gear down/props fine" is stated. Totally unnecessary in a fixed gear aircraft but I am glad I frequently get that thought as it may save me someday in another aircraft type.

I agree. Even at work where it would be pretty difficult to accidentally gear up an Airbus, I still double check the three greens and landing flaps set on short final after the landing checklist has been completed. The habit serves me well when flying metal thats not as automated.

[Eric Janson]

I'm familiar with 2 cases of take-off from a taxiway at my gateway airport.

Both cases involved carriers based at the airport. Complacency was definitely a factor.

One case was at night - that I don't understand as you are looking at completely different lights and colours.

My company has a runway identification call that both Pilots have to confirm.

Depending on the airport/situation I will turn on the localiser and confirm it's centered.

[pelmet]

I'm familiar with 2 cases of take-off from a taxiway at my gateway airport.

Both cases involved carriers based at the airport. Complacency was definitely a factor.

One case was at night - that I don't understand as you are looking at completely different lights and colours.

My company has a runway identification call that both Pilots have to confirm.

Depending on the airport/situation I will turn on the localiser and confirm it's centered.

Simply take a second or to deliberately notice the markings while lining up. At night......white edge lights and make note if two or three sets of lights to ensure on centerline. During day.....white centerlines are good, yellow centerlines are bad. Runway numbers are best but for intersection takeoffs, they may not be available. Bottom line, every taxiway takeoff was due to not making mental note of this due to distraction when busy or just not paying attention. Take a deliberate one to two seconds while turning onto the centerline to make sure it actually is the centerline.

[goldeneagle]

ahh for the good old days of '26Alpha' at YVR. I've used it a number of times back in the day, cleared for takeoff, from the taxiway...

[atc_is_god]

ATC saved the day (again)