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The world is changing and the persistent vibes of the 1930’s that have been ringing for some time —- a long time actually — grow stronger.

Now a harsh message for the new CPL’s — just read the recent threads! — out there who think they are God’s gift to aviation, small 703’s should bow at their feet and pay them top dollar because they made the massive achievement of a CPL.

Yeah. The world sucks. I get it. Now get over it! Adapt or die. Grow up a little.

These small operations are like any other small business — they are simply trying to stay alive in this environment.

Any employer is gonna have absolutely ZERO tolerance for your whining, expectations, and sense of entitlement.

I would fast assume a massive dose of complete professionalism and humility, and find ways to make yourself valuable in multiple roles outside of a cockpit as well as in it.

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There's already a tariff thread. Your comment doesn't always deserve its own.
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I'm relatively new to this industry but I've been a blue collar for just over 20 years so I'm not so wet around the ears and ive had my fair share of new and young apprentices. So far what I've picked up is you really like the sound of your own voice, Your giving off the same Im gods gift vibe as your preaching, Almost on the same level as "Well back in my day it was acceptable to beat your wife if she didn't have dinner on the table" energy.

Times change, Attitudes change, what was acceptable back when might not be now. stop berating others, Give advice by all means but never shoot someone down in flames and berate them with "I had to do it so you should" all that happens is you end up sounding like a boomer arsehole.
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The liberal party can’t thank Trump enough for this. Pretty much zero path forward for PP. :rolleyes: Canadians want to flex our politics to show Trump he definitely doesn’t want Canadians voting as a 51st state. Maybe this is the long play, 4 more years of liberal likely to crush Canada even further economically.
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Honestly in my couple decades of aviation starting in the bad old days, I heard a lot more whining and entitlement from owners and operators than I ever did from pilots… who in the last five years have finally started to be treated and remunerated like they should have been all along.

There will be business casualties. A few of the operators I’ve worked for no longer exist and good-riddance.

Smart business owners are well positioned and will pay well. Don’t make your career a charity to those who are stuck with an unsustainable business model.
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I haven’t bought a new car in my half century on this earth and don’t plan to any time soon. Times are a-changing and not for the better. Better buckle up boys and girls. :mrgreen:
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‘Bob’ wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:41 pm Honestly in my couple decades of aviation starting in the bad old days, I heard a lot more whining and entitlement from owners and operators than I ever did from pilots… who in the last five years have finally started to be treated and remunerated like they should have been all along.

There will be business casualties. A few of the operators I’ve worked for no longer exist and good-riddance.

Smart business owners are well positioned and will pay well. Don’t make your career a charity to those who are stuck with an unsustainable business model.
I never, ever, ever said make anyones career a charity. You added that phrase.

Entitlement from owners….you’ve never started something from scratch i would imagine. Its not easy.

Regardless of the tone of my post — yes a bit too sharp, I acknowledge— small businesses are failing in droves all over the country. I see it. Good bad and mediocre run.

Smart business owners will NOT be fine. It is likely gonna get much worse.

I Only mean — as employee’s, bring all the professionalism , value added, learning attitude you can. Help your employer stay alive, and this will help you in your career. Not by cutting wages. Add value.

If this is bad advice in these times I wash my hands of this topic.
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rookiepilot wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:35 pm The world is changing and the persistent vibes of the 1930’s that have been ringing for some time —- a long time actually — grow stronger.

Now a harsh message for the new CPL’s — just read the recent threads! — out there who think they are God’s gift to aviation, small 703’s should bow at their feet and pay them top dollar because they made the massive achievement of a CPL.

Yeah. The world sucks. I get it. Now get over it! Adapt or die. Grow up a little.

These small operations are like any other small business — they are simply trying to stay alive in this environment.

Any employer is gonna have absolutely ZERO tolerance for your whining, expectations, and sense of entitlement.

I would fast assume a massive dose of complete professionalism and humility, and find ways to make yourself valuable in multiple roles outside of a cockpit as well as in it.

Message done.
What does auto tariffs have to do with entitlement in the younger generation???
Did you just choose a random topic to start your blabbering with?
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Not sure if my comments fit this thread or not but something that appears to have been overlooked is that Canada put 100% tariffs on Chinese built EV’s to hopefully prevent tariffs on US bound ,Canadian autos & parts.
In return China put 100% tariffs on Canadian canola & peas;considering that almost all of Canada’s canola & peas end up in China through west coast ports a whole lot of western farmers & west coast grain industry employees could be in for a world of hurt ,not to mention the transport industry that moves that product.

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I am scared where this is all going. Call me a fool if you must.

All of my posts emanate from that fear.

I apologize for any offense but everything I see tells me we are headed for a world of hurt.
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BGH wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:31 am Not sure if my comments fit this thread or not but something that appears to have been overlooked is that Canada put 100% tariffs on Chinese built EV’s to hopefully prevent tariffs on US bound ,Canadian autos & parts.
In return China put 100% tariffs on Canadian canola & peas;considering that almost all of Canada’s canola & peas end up in China through west coast ports a whole lot of western farmers & west coast grain industry employees could be in for a world of hurt ,not to mention the transport industry that moves that product.

Daryl
Part of it is also keeping the asian domestic manufacturers happy, imagine if the big 3 plus Toyota plus Honda got hit?
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newlygrounded wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 10:59 am
BGH wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:31 am Not sure if my comments fit this thread or not but something that appears to have been overlooked is that Canada put 100% tariffs on Chinese built EV’s to hopefully prevent tariffs on US bound ,Canadian autos & parts.
In return China put 100% tariffs on Canadian canola & peas;considering that almost all of Canada’s canola & peas end up in China through west coast ports a whole lot of western farmers & west coast grain industry employees could be in for a world of hurt ,not to mention the transport industry that moves that product.

Daryl
Part of it is also keeping the asian domestic manufacturers happy, imagine if the big 3 plus Toyota plus Honda got hit?
Well, I was supposed to go trade in my 2022 American made for a 2025 American made this weekend, I’ll double check if it’s manufactured in Canada but outside of that I’ll be putting off any purchase of an American made anything for a while, likely almost four more years!
Chinese made electric cars may be enticing if Canada removes the 100% tariff, I say since it was applied in solidarity with the US, remove it and decimate US car sales to Canada. I’m sure the manufacturing plants can be modified to another car maker!
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This is not headed in a good direction.

https://www.forexlive.com/news/carney-o ... -20250327/
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We should toss the US auto protectionism if the integrated sector is all over. The sooner the better.

I'm holding out to get one of the first run of Canadians built Toyota Hilux, hopefully with the 4D4 turbo-diesel. Cheaper, more capable, more reliable than Tacomas. Just bring in the same cars as in South America in the meantime. You can get some nice cars a helluva lot cheaper down there.
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altiplano wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:15 pm We should toss the US auto protectionism if the integrated sector is all over. The sooner the better.

I'm holding out to get one of the first run of Canadians built Toyota Hilux, hopefully with the 4D4 turbo-diesel. Cheaper, more capable, more reliable than Tacomas. Just bring in the same cars as in South America in the meantime. You can get some nice cars a helluva lot cheaper down there.
Agreed, there is mines in Ontario that are allowed to import brand new land cruisers I’d love that opportunity to buy one and run it on the road.
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rookiepilot wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 am Isn't this nice.

https://www.cp24.com/politics/toronto-c ... ent-raise/
No raise since 2006, I think it’s wrong to complain about this!
If you want to attract people to step up, the renumeration should be somewhat attractive, they will be earning it over the next while!
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altiplano wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:15 pm We should toss the US auto protectionism if the integrated sector is all over. The sooner the better.

I'm holding out to get one of the first run of Canadians built Toyota Hilux, hopefully with the 4D4 turbo-diesel. Cheaper, more capable, more reliable than Tacomas. Just bring in the same cars as in South America in the meantime. You can get some nice cars a helluva lot cheaper down there.
Pretty sure they don’t meet Canadian safety or emissions standards. By the time you redesign it to meet them, you’ve got a Tacoma anyways.
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The Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and Silverado HD, are assembled in Canada, specifically at the General Motors Oshawa Assembly Plant in Ontario. What about Ford or Ram. Our choice would be very limited to buy Canadian only vehicles.
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Yeah those would be awesome. They pretty much killed the diesel market here with emission BS. I think you can import vehicles 20 years old or older only. I see a few of those Japanese mini trucks here. They don’t have any emissions controls on them by the looks of it.
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Inverted2 wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:59 pm with emission BS
Go walk around in Havana/Cuba if you'd like to see the effect of the 'emission BS'. The air is absolutely disgusting. Sometimes the rules make sense.
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cdnavater wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:22 am
rookiepilot wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 am Isn't this nice.

https://www.cp24.com/politics/toronto-c ... ent-raise/
No raise since 2006, I think it’s wrong to complain about this!
If you want to attract people to step up, the renumeration should be somewhat attractive, they will be earning it over the next while!
The last time Toronto’s councillors got a raise was in 2006. Since then, the city’s elected officials have only seen annual increases tied to inflation, with the exception of 2011, 2020, and 2021.

Which means they were already doing better than the median private sector employee.
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So there you have it. Remember when I said we could come out of this with a good outcome by simply giving up the dairy marketing board. But guess what folks, Carney and probably every other politician will screw us over so that we can continue to get screwed over by our own dairy farmers that limit the amount of cheese we can bring in from Europe, and charge us more for all dairy products.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/carney-tr ... -1.7496677

And before bringing up the tired old argument of BGH in milk, apparently in the US Wal-Mart sells non-BGH milk under its own name brand. If there is a market for it, you will see it.

Meanwhile, wait for certain provinces/politicians to refuse to allow free trade internally(Quebec) and to agree to a cross-Canada pipeline(Carney) and our best opportunity in a long time, ironically brought to us by Trump will be lost. It is not Trump that is the problem, it is most Canadians.

How much sacrifice are you willing to make to protect our Dairy farmers forcing you to pay thousands of dollars extra over your lifetime for dairy products along with restricting your choice on wonderful cheeses and creamy butters. According to an article below, the average canadian family pays $300 mor per year because of this.

https://nationalpost.com/news/former-li ... -rebellion

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ho ... undlanders
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pelmet wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:37 pm So there you have it. Remember when I said we could come out of this with a good outcome by simply giving up the dairy marketing board. But guess what folks, Carney and probably every other politician will screw us over so that we can continue to get screwed over by our own dairy farmers that limit the amount of cheese we can bring in from Europe, and charge us more for all dairy products.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/carney-tr ... -1.7496677

And before bringing up the tired old argument of BGH in milk, apparently in the US Wal-Mart sells non-BGH milk under its own name brand. If there is a market for it, you will see it.

Meanwhile, wait for certain provinces/politicians to refuse to allow free trade internally(Quebec) and to agree to a cross-Canada pipeline(Carney) and our best opportunity in a long time, ironically brought to us by Trump will be lost. It is not Trump that is the problem, it is most Canadians.

How much sacrifice are you willing to make for our Dairy farmers. According to an article below, the average canadian family pays $300 mor per year because of this.

https://nationalpost.com/news/former-li ... -rebellion

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ho ... undlanders
Which political party is most opposed to the dairy and cheese quota?
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The dairy & cheese quota was put in place to give Canadian farmers a chance to make a living & have a stable income.
I guess you could say go ahead & get rid of it & while we’re at it let foreign pilots fly Canadian aircraft & non Canadian airlines service Canada because heck they could do it cheaper.
I could probably save hundreds of dollars on my travels if they paid the crew less.
Just a differing view.

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