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twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:29 pm
by AKLAVIA13
Greetings, everyone. Colleagues, may I ask your opinion? Please tell me—in your view, would there be demand today for a twin-engine, six-seat amphibian with the structural capability to conveniently launch a two-seat jet ski or quad bike into the water and retrieve it back aboard? Powered by two 180-hp Lycomings, and if the aircraft carries the jet ski, of course only two people on board :). Setting aside the price of a new amphibian of this kind at around one million dollars, I’m interested in the principle question of the demand for such a design feature in an amphibious aircraft.

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:33 pm
by digits_
How is that going to work? Sounds like a twin commanche on floats. You can barely put 4 people in those, and now you want to add floats to the mix?

Sounds like a seriously underpowered twin. The amphibs would be nice, but I doubt anyone would pay a million dollars for it.

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 12:02 am
by MarkieHenry
Niche appeal, but adventure tourism or remote access markets may bite.

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 3:25 am
by AKLAVIA13
Good afternoon. No, this isn’t a floatplane with pontoons—it’s an amphibious aircraft, and this is already happening; we already fly with that load. However, we still don’t have a convenient ramp for the jet ski after a water landing or for lowering the quad bike after docking at the shore. I would appreciate a specific answer to the previously asked question: is there actually any demand for, and convenience in, carrying out such a cargo operation?

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 6:50 am
by digits_
That looks nice!

It would be a fairly unique feature, but given the size of the airplane it would likely be mostly private guys who would possibly buy it. I don't think many people would want to fly around by themselves or with one person and then transport one jet ski.

The ATV/Quad might be more in demand, but how would you get it off though?

Then again there's probably a market for people who would love to own an airplane that can do this, even if they never actually use it.

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 9:13 am
by North Shore
There's already an aircraft that does this - it' called a 'Twin Otter'..

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 7:12 am
by 5x5
North Shore wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 9:13 am There's already an aircraft that does this - it' called a 'Twin Otter'..
Hmmm, I didn’t think a Twin Otter could be had for a million bucks. Where would I find such a deal?

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 10:45 am
by all_ramped_up
Looks like Beriev inspired design. Like the Be-103.

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 2:27 pm
by goldeneagle
Looks like this one

http://www.seabearaircraft.com/news/the ... amphibian/

IMHO, to much money for not enough airplane. As stated above, essentially a twin commanche on a boat hull.

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 10:39 pm
by TeePeeCreeper
^ Agree.

Maybe viable with a Walter power plant? Speaking of which… to answer the OP question;

No, I do not see a design coming from Russia or Belarus as being successful in the Western market given the current state of global affairs caused by…. I’ll leave it at that.

TPC

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 7:13 am
by nine sixteenths
AKLAVIA13 wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 3:25 am Good afternoon. No, this isn’t a floatplane with pontoons—it’s an amphibious aircraft, and this is already happening; we already fly with that load. However, we still don’t have a convenient ramp for the jet ski after a water landing or for lowering the quad bike after docking at the shore. I would appreciate a specific answer to the previously asked question: is there actually any demand for, and convenience in, carrying out such a cargo operation?
Doesn’t look very commercially viable, for the price of operating that a commercial operator can get into an older caravan and be a heck of a lot more versatile year round. plus have a turbine up front.

The images shared don’t look like that aircraft could hold an ATV, maybe a child sized one but that hatch looks too small. Have you got a photo of it with a jet ski or ATV in there?

Re: twin-engine, six-seat amphibian

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 7:53 am
by Bede
That amphib looks really cool.

However, I don't see a market for it. (Having said that, I don't see a market for pretty much any airplane. Most new developments never recoupe their R&D costs.)