Hi,

I'm looking to get an official ICAO English assessment in Canada. Does anyone know who administers it? Somewhere that's officially recognized. I'm a native English speaker, but (I believe) I still need an official assessment proving that, for overseas airlines.

Thanks.

RoAF-Mig21 wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 11:36 am Hi,

I'm looking to get an official ICAO English assessment in Canada. Does anyone know who administers it? Somewhere that's officially recognized. I'm a native English speaker, but (I believe) I still need an official assessment prooving that, for overseas airlines.

Thanks.

It will depend on the requirements of the overseas airline's civil aviation authority. Some will just accept your Canadian license, others won't. If they don't, they likely will require a test by one of their approved providers, making it a moot point to get a test proactively in Canada.

If you need to show English proficiency, then note that your license sticker shows LP: EN.

digits_ wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 11:47 am
It will depend on the requirements of the overseas airline's civil aviation authority. Some will just accept your Canadian license, others won't. If they don't, they likely will require a test by one of their approved providers, making it a moot point to get a test proactively in Canada.

If you need to show English proficiency, then note that your license sticker shows LP: EN.

Thank you digits. I appreciate your help.

Most flight schools should be able to do it as lots of students from overseas have to get it before they can go solo.

RoAF-Mig21 wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 11:36 am Hi,

I'm looking to get an official ICAO English assessment in Canada. Does anyone know who administers it? Somewhere that's officially recognized. I'm a native English speaker, but (I believe) I still need an official assessment proving that, for overseas airlines.

Thanks.

You can contact the Authority under which you will be getting your EASA Licence and ask for a list of approved organisations who can do it for you.

Good to have everything under the same Authority. Jmho.

digits_ wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 11:47 am If you need to show English proficiency, then note that your license sticker shows LP: EN.

I have heard from friends that some countries refuse to accept TC language proficiency in the ADB because it does not follow the ICAO proficiency levels (1 to 6).

They also will not accept the FAA's view (as I understand it) that you must be proficient in English to hold an FAA airman's certificate, as again it does not follow the ICAO numbered levels.

TailwheelPilot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:34 pm

digits_ wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 11:47 am If you need to show English proficiency, then note that your license sticker shows LP: EN.

I have heard from friends that some countries refuse to accept TC language proficiency in the ADB because it does not follow the ICAO proficiency levels (1 to 6).

They also will not accept the FAA's view (as I understand it) that you must be proficient in English to hold an FAA airman's certificate, as again it does not follow the ICAO numbered levels.

Definitely possible. They'll accept it as a language proficiency on a Canadian license when you're flying a Canadian registered aircraft, but it might not be sufficient to issue a license in said country solely based on that.

I remember the wild stories that were being shared in Europe around the time that this language proficiency nonsense came into play. Some said it was mainly aimed at the French, as their English language were considered, on average, below par in the airplane. So here we go, all countries now need an unnecessarily complex English language test. But, French is an ICAO language, and with one fell swoop France gave all their license holders and LP 6 - French, giving them the same privileges as an LP English 6.

No idea if this truly was the origin of the language testing, but nobody had any trouble believing it.

Then again, I believe some American pilots have similar stories with the Chinese being the butt of the joke. International politics sure are interesting!