Bombardier (maybe) loses another big jet order to Embrair

[teacher]

Could it be because the RJ is getting a little long in the tooth and needs a more up to date version or replacement?

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... ource.html

Northwest poised for big Embraer 175 order: source
Northwest Airlines is to order Embraer 175 twinjets for its planned feeder unit Compass Airlines, according to a source close to the deal.

The US major in March revealed it was in talks with Bombardier and Embraer for a fleet of 36 aircraft, with both a 76-seat two-class CRJ900 or 75-seat two-class E-175 under consideration.

That plan said an order would be placed in April, with deliveries starting in March 2007. However last week Northwest said it has no specific date for Compass’ inauguration.

Neither Embraer nor Northwest will comment on the forthcoming order.

The source could offer no further details.

Compass, which was granted a tentative air operator’s certificate by the US DOT on September 11, will initially be used to replace capacity lost under Northwest’s revision of its contract with Mesaba Aviation, Northwest said in its March regulatory filing.

This will be the second E-175 order by a US carrier following Republic Airlines, which in July placed an order for 30 of the type. Republic’s deliveries are scheduled to begin next year.

Embraer yesterday revealed that the US FAA on August 31 granted type certification to the E-175, a move required before the Brazilian manufacturer can start delivering the aircraft to US carriers.

[Inverted2]

Kinda sad, Embrarer is kicking Bombardiers ass but yes they do offer a better product. The CRJ 900 fuselage is the same width as the 200 and it still has the tiny overhead bins while the ERJ has nice bins you can actually fit stuff in. That extra fuselage width makes the airplane feel so much bigger inside.

[ajet32]

Yes :
But they call the EMB 170/190 the 180 for a reason , its always doing a 180 back to the airport. Not the best dispatch records compared to the Bombardier products.

[justplanecrazy]

But when winter comes the CRJ9's aren't doing a 180 because they can't get off the ground! Their crosswind limitations and maitenance records are not the best either. Hopefully if they do increase the luggage compartment by removing a few seats, it'll improve its reputation as the luggage loser. I don't have any experience with the ERJ but as far as CRJ goes, I'm surprised it was built in Canada. I haven't seen another jet perform worse for landing/take-off distance, approach speeds, crosswind limitations, cold weather operations etc. Well maybe the Bach jet beats them for the cold weather op's but it definately has them on all other accounts. Underpowering an aircraft to provide cheap operating costs will cost an airline a lot more in the long run and I think they're starting to realise that.

[Inverted2]

Yes :
But they call the EMB 170/190 the 180 for a reason , its always doing a 180 back to the airport. Not the best dispatch records compared to the Bombardier products.

Guess you don't fly the CRJ100's. I've never flown a machine with as many maintinance issues, then again they're getting pretty old and tired...

[ajet32]

Actually I do fly a CRJ 100 man num 7036. On a contract for Harmony. I have never flown an AC this snag free in 17 years. Might be lucky but thats my experience in 4 months with it.

[goldeneagle]

Actually I do fly a CRJ 100 man num 7036. On a contract for Harmony. I have never flown an AC this snag free in 17 years. Might be lucky but thats my experience in 4 months with it.

4 summer months......

[bizjet_mania]

With the amount of Legs these regional jets fly, its not a surprised they are going to have many maintenenace issues.

[flystraightin]

What happened to the new jet Bombardier that was in the works? C-Series I believe, it looked a lot like the E170/190...did that project get scrapped?