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Another pilot job LMIA request

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Perhaps pay or QoL should be addressed before importing foreign labour to drive down wages in our industry? Money shouldn't be in short supply with such a massive contract :roll:

https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/jobsearch/job ... rchresults
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Carson has always been the cheapest mofos. Time for us to blacklist them.
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**** wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 5:45 am Time for us to blacklist them.
Tempting, even if impractical. But if they were successfully blacklisted, that would ultimately support their request (no Canadian workers applying). Better to make sure they get applications, and then note the links:
link wrote: The employer’s LMIA application is currently under review by the Temporary Foreign Worker (TFW) Program. To report abuse of the TFW Program, call the program’s tip line.
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Check out https://lmiamap.org/ for a map of all companies around Canada that prefer to not hire canadian.
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You make a good point Conflicting Traffic. It's such a messed up culture that we have where employers will do absolutely anything except pay a decent salary to their employees. Air Canada estimated it lost about $375 million in operating income from the strike by their flight attendants.
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Conflicting Traffic wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 8:02 am
**** wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 5:45 am Time for us to blacklist them.
Tempting, even if impractical. But if they were successfully blacklisted, that would ultimately support their request (no Canadian workers applying). Better to make sure they get applications, and then note the links:
link wrote: The employer’s LMIA application is currently under review by the Temporary Foreign Worker (TFW) Program. To report abuse of the TFW Program, call the program’s tip line.
The tip line is for the imported slaves to complain about their slavery conditions. Not for Canadians who have been denied the chance to even get the job because the company wants to bring us down even more by importing the third world.
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**** wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:49 pm You make a good point Conflicting Traffic. It's such a messed up culture that we have where employers will do absolutely anything except pay a decent salary to their employees. Air Canada estimated it lost about $375 million in operating income from the strike by their flight attendants.
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I love that it's just all out in the open now. All the local guys here are sitting on their hands with zero job offers, fully credentialled young pilots ready to start their careers. And these corps blatantly favoring indentured servants instead. I hate to say it, but looks like "capitalism" and "free markets" have failed. All capitalists want to do is enrich themselves at any cost, with zero regard for their community, society or nation. This can't continue, and if boomers keep voting to keep it going, we are in for some chaotic times ahead. I'll keep yelling into the wind though, hoping they come to their senses.
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Red_Comet wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:37 am I love that it's just all out in the open now. All the local guys here are sitting on their hands with zero job offers, fully credentialled young pilots ready to start their careers. And these corps blatantly favoring indentured servants instead. I hate to say it, but looks like "capitalism" and "free markets" have failed. All capitalists want to do is enrich themselves at any cost, with zero regard for their community, society or nation. This can't continue, and if boomers keep voting to keep it going, we are in for some chaotic times ahead. I'll keep yelling into the wind though, hoping they come to their senses.
But it isn't the free market doing this for the most part.
It is government protectionism combined with government sanctioned mass imports of millions of people to water down the economy.

In a truly free market we would have Delta flying out planes and all be using vodaphone or T-Mobile for our phones.
Instead we have two bit Canadian companies protected by over regulation and staffed by the third world.

But hey, at least we can keep saying we have a GDP with these false imports.....
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Where are all the boomers that constantly scream about proving your worth to the company in every position except a flying one? They sure seem to have no problem with companies hiring pilots from parts of the world that have no semblance to the type of flying they'll do in Canada.
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Red_Comet wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:37 am I love that it's just all out in the open now. All the local guys here are sitting on their hands with zero job offers, fully credentialled young pilots ready to start their careers. And these corps blatantly favoring indentured servants instead. I hate to say it, but looks like "capitalism" and "free markets" have failed. All capitalists want to do is enrich themselves at any cost, with zero regard for their community, society or nation. This can't continue, and if boomers keep voting to keep it going, we are in for some chaotic times ahead. I'll keep yelling into the wind though, hoping they come to their senses.
This isn’t a career starting job.

I know there are a lot of 250 hour wonders super horny to work for Mr Carson, but they don’t meet the BC EHS contract requirements.

Anyone who does meet the requirements isn’t working for $130k running the treadmill of poverty in the Lower Mainland.

You can work for Air Canada, Westjet, Porter, etc with the same experience.

The issue is money and it always has been. Pay $200k and you’ll get applicants.
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Most high wage LMIA postings are for people they have already selected and now have to go through the motions to offer the job to other people first.
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So this is what it has come down to. Mods deleting comment because they're insecure on addressing the elephant in the room instead of having an open dialogue..
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Negative izzat for the mods
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Isn't that positive izzat?
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Proof that an angry boomers micromanagement doesn't end in the flight deck...
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Red_Comet wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:37 am I love that it's just all out in the open now. All the local guys here are sitting on their hands with zero job offers, fully credentialled young pilots ready to start their careers. And these corps blatantly favoring indentured servants instead. I hate to say it, but looks like "capitalism" and "free markets" have failed. All capitalists want to do is enrich themselves at any cost, with zero regard for their community, society or nation. This can't continue, and if boomers keep voting to keep it going, we are in for some chaotic times ahead. I'll keep yelling into the wind though, hoping they come to their senses.
As an anti-capitalist, you need to be aware of what your vote for a semi-socialist country means.

The low end jobs get significantly more pay(minimum wage here versus USA) along with more government support(such as free health care) while the top pay plateaus significantly below the top end in the USA(while you also get free health care).

That is what you voted for, so be happy with what you are being offered.
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pelmet wrote: Wed Nov 26, 2025 9:17 pm
Red_Comet wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:37 am I love that it's just all out in the open now. All the local guys here are sitting on their hands with zero job offers, fully credentialled young pilots ready to start their careers. And these corps blatantly favoring indentured servants instead. I hate to say it, but looks like "capitalism" and "free markets" have failed. All capitalists want to do is enrich themselves at any cost, with zero regard for their community, society or nation. This can't continue, and if boomers keep voting to keep it going, we are in for some chaotic times ahead. I'll keep yelling into the wind though, hoping they come to their senses.
As an anti-capitalist, you need to be aware of what your vote for a semi-socialist country means.

The low end jobs get significantly more pay(minimum wage here versus USA) along with more government support(such as free health care) while the top pay plateaus significantly below the top end in the USA(while you also get free health care).

That is what you voted for, so be happy with what you are being offered.
I'm a realist. I believe what my eyes tell me. I used to love "capitalism" and "free markets", till I found out they were just words used by billionaires to hoodwink working folk into indentured servitude. When it suited them, they opened the borders and flooded my country with millions upon millions of desperate poor, destroying my quality of life and those of every other working class person. The rich don't give a single flying f**k about anyone but themselves and theirs. That much is exceedingly clear to me and everyone else now.

So no, I'm done with ideologies. If it doesn't work, it needs to go. Capitalism had its run. Canada wasn't built on Capitalism, it was built on Crown Corporations and the common good. We're not Americans (and Capitalism isn't working so well for them either). The American century is coming to a close, and good riddance. We're going to chart our own path forward free of their bullshit propaganda. Freedom my ass.

Oh, and I don't for a second believe that our "socialists" have the answers. The only thing our leftwing parties care about is the exact same thing the billionaire class want: infinite legal/illegal immigration under the guise of "humanitarianism". It's all the same playbook with a rainbow coating. They'll cry and agitate for the most deranged and degenerate causes, but not utter a peep about anything meaningful to the average person.

One thing is for sure, this state of affairs isn't going to continue for long. I've just about had enough and so has most of the working class. We're tired of the bullshit spewed by our Banker overlords and their infinite army of sycophants.
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Red_Comet wrote: Wed Nov 26, 2025 9:49 pm
pelmet wrote: Wed Nov 26, 2025 9:17 pm
Red_Comet wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 5:37 am I love that it's just all out in the open now. All the local guys here are sitting on their hands with zero job offers, fully credentialled young pilots ready to start their careers. And these corps blatantly favoring indentured servants instead. I hate to say it, but looks like "capitalism" and "free markets" have failed. All capitalists want to do is enrich themselves at any cost, with zero regard for their community, society or nation. This can't continue, and if boomers keep voting to keep it going, we are in for some chaotic times ahead. I'll keep yelling into the wind though, hoping they come to their senses.
As an anti-capitalist, you need to be aware of what your vote for a semi-socialist country means.

The low end jobs get significantly more pay(minimum wage here versus USA) along with more government support(such as free health care) while the top pay plateaus significantly below the top end in the USA(while you also get free health care).

That is what you voted for, so be happy with what you are being offered.
I'm a realist. I believe what my eyes tell me. I used to love "capitalism" and "free markets", till I found out they were just words used by billionaires to hoodwink working folk into indentured servitude. When it suited them, they opened the borders and flooded my country with millions upon millions of desperate poor, destroying my quality of life and those of every other working class person. The rich don't give a single flying f**k about anyone but themselves and theirs. That much is exceedingly clear to me and everyone else now.

So no, I'm done with ideologies. If it doesn't work, it needs to go. Capitalism had its run. Canada wasn't built on Capitalism, it was built on Crown Corporations and the common good. We're not Americans (and Capitalism isn't working so well for them either). The American century is coming to a close, and good riddance. We're going to chart our own path forward free of their bullshit propaganda. Freedom my ass.

Oh, and I don't for a second believe that our "socialists" have the answers. The only thing our leftwing parties care about is the exact same thing the billionaire class want: infinite legal/illegal immigration under the guise of "humanitarianism". It's all the same playbook with a rainbow coating. They'll cry and agitate for the most deranged and degenerate causes, but not utter a peep about anything meaningful to the average person.

One thing is for sure, this state of affairs isn't going to continue for long. I've just about had enough and so has most of the working class. We're tired of the bullshit spewed by our Banker overlords and their infinite army of sycophants.


Zero logic. He is against capitalism because foolish politicians had poor immigration policies.

Looking at billionaires, down in the US(which actually has a significant amount of them), a lot sure support Trump, who doesn’t seem to be very immigration friendly.
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We are beyond screwed. If you aren't working on an exit plan you should be.
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Voting has consequence in democracies. There is precedent for mass repatriation of immigrant labour due to change in economic condition. Even if they are already citizen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation
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Daniel Cooper wrote: Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:05 pm We are beyond screwed. If you aren't working on an exit plan you should be.

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Highly unlikely to be a billionaire capitalism issue with an individual Tim Hortons franchise owner " reportedly from Brampton". More like a guy from Brampton hiring people that speak the same language as him.
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The government offers wage subsidy programs for hiring specific group, or from under-represented groups, or newcomers to Canada. Why would businesses not take advantage? DEI is capitalists pretending to be altruistic. The root issue is the government we elect not business trying to maximize profit.
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Jean-Pierre wrote: Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:46 pm The government offers wage subsidy programs for hiring specific group, or from under-represented groups, or newcomers to Canada. Why would businesses not take advantage? DEI is capitalists pretending to be altruistic. The root issue is the government we elect not business trying to maximize profit.
That we elect but businesses lobby.

Businesses trying to maximize profits are still the real root issue.

No Canadian employee would ever vote for TFWs to displace Canadian workers and yet they’re been here no matter what government was in power.

What hasn’t changed? Crony capitalism.
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‘Bob’ wrote: Thu Nov 27, 2025 5:37 pm
Jean-Pierre wrote: Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:46 pm The government offers wage subsidy programs for hiring specific group, or from under-represented groups, or newcomers to Canada. Why would businesses not take advantage? DEI is capitalists pretending to be altruistic. The root issue is the government we elect not business trying to maximize profit.
That we elect but businesses lobby.

Businesses trying to maximize profits are still the real root issue.

No Canadian employee would ever vote for TFWs to displace Canadian workers and yet they’re been here no matter what government was in power.

What hasn’t changed? Crony capitalism.

Globalists, not capitalists. Many would say socialist one world utopia globalists.

Capitalists built every single convenience you have. You're free to not consume anything in protest and go sing in a cave until Marx rises again to save you.
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