spin training for recreation and private licence?

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spin training for recreation and private licence?

Post by helinas »

Hi guys,

Is spin training part of the recreation and private licence anymore?
any info would be appreciated.

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Roger

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Spin trainning is a requirement for pre solo authorization. After that you dont "have" to technically teach it again, but if you dont then the student is missing out on a valuable recovery skill. It is not a flight tested item untill you go for your cpl. But you should definatly be shown spins at least a few times after solo.
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And adding to that, you'll find that if you're a person who likes spinning, that you'll probably ask your instructor to do it ocasionally, especially when it ties into flight test review :) I loved it, and it never gets boring for me.

Have fun spinning out there ;)
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Here's one of my favourite spin videos...

http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h169/ ... t=spin.flv

This should be done on every flight IMHO.

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Ahh the good old zlin. I don't get to do 6 turn spins anymore.
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Get that resume into Sault College, BTD!

I think I still have a favourite tie or 2 I can loan ya. I burned most of them after my Multi-IFR ride.

-istp :D
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Nice vid ISTP!

Who's driving that low wing fun thing?
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Spins were never a part of the rec permit. And spins were removed from the private pilot flight test about 10 years ago.

More eye candy (inverted, flat):

http://www.beasafepilot.com/videos.htm
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Rowdy, one of my former classmates from Sault College-a frequenter of this site, was doing the spin. He's an instructor around Barrie, Ont. now.

Hedley, thanks for the candy! I immediately bookmarked that site, and was intrigued by the Aerobat "nose yaw" exercise in the Dutch roll video.

I gotta try that this weekend when I go flying.

When flying for fun, it amazes me how I find little exercises and projects to give myself an excuse to go flying. Straight and level from the same aerodrome is pretty boring, unless you have passengers- then you get to practice your straight and level/smoothness with a bit of pressure on.

Ahhh, flying is fun.

-istp :D
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I spin the Cherokee all the time, its great. And most students love it, after they get over the 1st-spin "Oh sh*t" factor.
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Post by Pete »

Is that Dave. A? He still instructs around barrie? I did my night rating with him a while back.
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Pete wrote:Is that Dave. A? He still instructs around barrie? I did my night rating with him a while back.
Dave's not here man....
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Post by mellow_pilot »

Funny thing is Dave's not there, either, man. (in the vid i mean)
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So you guys know him or what? Looked like him kinda...and the info istp gave...I thought it was him for sure. mehhhh
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Post by mellow_pilot »

The fella in the Video is not named Dave.

Like istp said, he's on here from time to time, mayhaps he'll claim the honours, or maybe he'll remain silent.
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Post by Pete »

ahhh ok, Mellow I thought u knew the Dave I was asking about...sounds like you know the guy in the vid, my bad.
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Nope.
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Not only do they get you to look the same by the shirt and tie but the reconstructive surgery is amazing.....all you sault boys and gals look like that?
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only in low res video
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Hedley wrote: And spins were removed from the private pilot flight test about 10 years ago.
I'd like to clarify this point:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/gener ... 3/ex29.htm

Spins are still 'fair game' on even a PPL flight test. It could be given as one of the two emergencies.

Spin recovery techniques (and the theory around 'em) are very important. It should never be rushed through or glazed over. If you don't know what you're doing, things can go wrong very quickly.

If you're looking for some more text on them, I'd like to suggest "Emergency Maneuver Training" by Stowell - a very good read for the enthusiast.

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Isis wrote:
Hedley wrote: And spins were removed from the private pilot flight test about 10 years ago.
I'd like to clarify this point:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/gener ... 3/ex29.htm

Spins are still 'fair game' on even a PPL flight test. It could be given as one of the two emergencies.

Spin recovery techniques (and the theory around 'em) are very important. It should never be rushed through or glazed over. If you don't know what you're doing, things can go wrong very quickly.

If you're looking for some more text on them, I'd like to suggest "Emergency Maneuver Training" by Stowell - a very good read for the enthusiast.

- Isis
just want to know, how will the examiner put you into the spin? will he just step on my rudder when i am doing stalls? or will he tell u ahead? becuz otherwise we will be scared right? but the point is emergency procedure so we are not supposed to know before hand right?
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etkuo wrote: just want to know, how will the examiner put you into the spin? will he just step on my rudder when i am doing stalls? or will he tell u ahead? becuz otherwise we will be scared right? but the point is emergency procedure so we are not supposed to know before hand right?
I'd be pretty surprised if the examiner put you into a spin without telling you beforehand on the flight test. Since they removed spin from the PPL flight test a few years ago I have not heard of any examiner doing this to a student, sounds pretty mean to me. That being said, the could, and probably would, if they felt like it.

Either way your training should be to the point where you can recover from a spin whether you're expecting it or not, otherwise the training is nearly pointless.
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BoostedNihilist wrote:Personally, I think it is a good idea to do this to a student withouth him/her knowing. Things can get hairy in slow flight really quick so... the decision to recover, or the recognition and prevention of the spin should come as an instinct, not as a thought out process of an anticipated spin.
Agreed
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