Cornwall Aviation

Lands Like Brick · Post by **Lands Like Brick** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:16 pm

Does anyone have any experiance with this FTU. thinking of going there to finish up CLP, MIFR and start instructor rating. any comments would be appreciated

Thanks
LLB

Tango01 · Post by **Tango01** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:18 pm

Don't have first hand experience, but it seems to be (from what I've read here) one of the best if not the best in Ontario.

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:13 pm

How far is this place from Toronto?

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:39 pm

3-4 hours i think

fingersmac · Post by **fingersmac** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:51 pm

Fast and efficient. Examiner on staff too. Haven't heard anything bad about them yet. I'm hoping to do my MIFR there in the spring.

Mr. Jones · Post by **Mr. Jones** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:26 am

I did my MIFR and Instructor rating there. They treat you well and get the job done without wasting any of your time or money. Very efficient. Nice people. Great customer service.

l_reason · Post by **l_reason** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:52 am

I went to Cornwall to do my multi (4.6hrs including ride) then later did my MIFR total in the twin was about 17 hours (both multi and MIFR). I have gone back since to renew my MIFR and they are always efficient and professional. If you own a FTU go to Cornwall to see how a flight school should be operated.

Look up CYCC in the CFS and call them.

Lands Like Brick · Post by **Lands Like Brick** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:15 am

thanks for the info guys, my decision is alot easier to make

LLB

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:16 pm

I logged about 8 hours or so in YCC, 6 on a 172, and 2 on the Seminole.

Great friendly people, good instruction as well.

This was back in 2003 however.

Adam Oke · Post by **Adam Oke** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:25 pm

Does anyone know if this place has an approved GPS in their Multi?

I know National Flyer's Academy has one....any others?

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:27 pm

Adam Oke wrote:Does anyone know if this place has an approved GPS in their Multi?

I know National Flyer's Academy has one....any others?

Not 100% but about 99.9% sure that they do.

Mr. Jones · Post by **Mr. Jones** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:39 am

They put new radio stacks in both planes this year. Dual garmin 430 for GPS.

Dominic220 · Post by **Dominic220** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:26 pm

go to Cornwall to see how a flight school should be operated.

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I could not disagree with this statement more. Maintenance issues (Someone f***ed one of their PA44's, so I can't hold it against them... it is aviation after all) but when they go moving someones' bookings who has been trying to get their multi training done for over 3 months, I cannot, in good will, say anything good about them. "I'm sorry, but you might have to move because someone from winnipeg needs to go home". Not "Could you please help us out", I would have had less of a problem with moving then, but when they arbitrarily move me because someone else want to go home, back to winnipeg, suffice it to say, I am not impressed. All things considered, I was at a preflight stage three times now and all three times have been cancelled. In short, do your best to stay away from this facility if you want expedious service.

That being said, In the past, I've heard of people going to Cornwall and getting good service, this however was over a year ago.

C-150Pilot · Post by **C-150Pilot** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:54 pm

I was there when the Seminole got ''fucked up" like say you. It has nothing to do with the flight school at all. A student lifted the gear lever before the aircraft even left the ground(touch and go) so the nose just came down on the runway and the props hit the asphalt and curled up. Lucky they got off the ground again..And for the bookings problem, not really their fault...the weather lately has been awful and if they were lucky they would get one flying day a week.

Dominic220 · Post by **Dominic220** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:47 pm

C-150Pilot wrote:And for the bookings problem, not really their fault...the weather lately has been awful and if they were lucky they would get one flying day a week.

So, if I understand this right, because weather is bad, they can move students because they feel like it, with complete disregard for their own booking system? If this is so, please let me know where you have first hand experience with this, and if you are an instructor at a particular school, so I may spread the 'good word' about how your operation runs as well.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:57 pm

" A student lifted the gear lever before the aircraft even left the ground(touch and go) so the nose just came down on the runway and the props hit the asphalt and curled up. Lucky they got off the ground again.. "

If they did a circuit after hitting the props on the runway and got around and landed I would say they were lucky.

Good decision making???

If that did happen......

Highflyinpilot · Post by **Highflyinpilot** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:16 am

Ya thats odd

CCnCoke · Post by **CCnCoke** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:54 pm

Hey - that pilot has a future with TC. They did the same thing a few years back in the King Air.

Ronner · Post by **Ronner** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:40 pm

An excellent school as they get the job done and done well. Somtimes things fall apart a little but they are extremely busy on both the FTU and AMO. The gear up was just the student getting overwhelmed. I did my multi rating with that instructor and he said the plane flew fine with 3 blades back one forward. He has plenty of multi time and makes you quite comfortable in the A/C.

N2 · Post by N2 » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:48 pm

Count me in for having a good experience with these folks too. Highly recommend them, it's well worth the effort to get there.

C-GPFG · Post by **C-GPFG** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:06 pm

C-150Pilot wrote:A student lifted the gear lever before the aircraft even left the ground(touch and go) so the nose just came down on the runway and the props hit the asphalt ...

Thought this wasn't supposed to be possible.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:21 pm

" The gear up was just the student getting overwhelmed. I did my multi rating with that instructor and he said the plane flew fine with 3 blades back one forward. He has plenty of multi time and makes you quite comfortable in the A/C. "

Was the instructor in the office looking out the window when this happened?

Tui · Post by **Tui** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:38 pm

C-GPFG wrote:
C-150Pilot wrote:A student lifted the gear lever before the aircraft even left the ground(touch and go) so the nose just came down on the runway and the props hit the asphalt ...
Thought this wasn't supposed to be possible.

When the plane is on the ground it activates one or two squat switches (also called WOW switches for Weight On Wheels) that prevent the gear motors from starting to retract the wheels. However, if the plane is moving and the weight is reduced (when the plane is just starting to leave the ground on T/O or after hitting a bump while taxiing) the switchs can be released and the gear motors activated (if the gear lever is in the retract position).

(The switches are usually on the gear legs inside the main wheel wells and are activated by the vertical movement of the oleos.)

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:56 pm

Yeah, squat switches can break like any other component. There is no substitute for proper procedures. Pos. rate, then gear up. $0.02

Tui · Post by **Tui** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:27 am

Agreed.