Resumes?

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:26 am

I've noticed that half of the newbies here do not have any idea how to write a resume.

I do.

I have been doing it for a long time for myself and I also helped a head-hunting company that was getting started to look over all the resumes of their applicants and temps and grade their resumes.

I am thinking that I might be able to help some of you guys out and maybe make some beer money too.

If anyone wants their resume edited, I will do a couple of you for free until I can see how long it takes to do, then later I will charge something if there is a demand.

If anyone is interested, pm me.

Happy New Year!

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:28 pm

There's a Hell of an offer! Most of you don't know shit about what to put on a resume, and where! And, what to leave OFF!!!

petey · Post by **petey** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:09 pm

Hmmm. Care to elaborate Doc. What kind of "shit" should be on a resume, and what "shit" should be left off? The reason I ask is because I've got to go take one, and I'm wondering if I should wipe my ass with mine.

petey · Post by **petey** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:10 pm

Hmmm. Care to elaborate Doc. What kind of "shit" should be on a resume, and what "shit" should be left off? The reason I ask is because I've got to go take one, and I'm wondering if I should wipe my ass with mine.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:49 pm

In your case, perhaps that would be a good use for it.....why the hostility? I've seen some pretty bad resumes. Chances are very good, that even YOU could learn something? Ah, maybe not...now, off you go, and wipe your ass.

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:35 pm

I have received three resumes so I am temporarily full.

What do you think is fair to charge for this service, to anyone else than these three, that is? Case of Guinness? $50.00? Date with your friend's sister (I'm married - disregard)? Ride in Doc's Corvette? PPC in a 'jo?

beechy · Post by **beechy** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:10 pm

i'd be willing to offer up my first born child to you if you help me get a twin job.

JohnnyHotRocks · Post by **JohnnyHotRocks** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:45 pm

i'd be willing to offer up my first born child to you if you help me get a twin job.

...and that, my friend, pretty much sums up why the aviation industry in Canada is in the state that is is in....

beechy · Post by **beechy** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:51 pm

But I'd never buy my way in.......i really don't care for children hence giving one up

Shady McSly · Post by **Shady McSly** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:19 pm

how hard is a pilot resume to make?

What have you flown? How many hours? and where have you worked in the industry? Oh, and your name and number maybe too.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:52 pm

Shady McSly wrote:how hard is a pilot resume to make?

What have you flown? How many hours? and where have you worked in the industry? Oh, and your name and number maybe too.

I thought it was that simple too!

What else could you possibly put on a resume that would actually make you stand out from anyone and everyone else?

Propwash77 · Post by **Propwash77** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:10 pm

Shady McSly wrote:how hard is a pilot resume to make?

What have you flown? How many hours? and where have you worked in the industry? Oh, and your name and number maybe too.

Don't forget to print it on the blue paper with the puffy white clouds.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:48 pm

beechy wrote:i'd be willing to offer up my first born child to you if you help me get a twin job.

How about your wife?

Let's talk

pitot · Post by **pitot** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:28 am

You need diesel scented paper!! I've heard people go wild for it, also it burns well.

rigpiggy · Post by **rigpiggy** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:05 am

The new pilot has a 3 page resume the old fart has 1. if you're a newb, just keep in mind the CP has limited time, we all know your a valuable team player. name, address, ph# ratings, time, employment history, and references

Dark Helmet · Post by **Dark Helmet** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:04 am

1 page is a given for sure. Whatever is on that 2nd or 3rd page will never be looked at by the CP.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com

There are some pretty good tips on pilot resumes there.

Plus there are two books out there. 1. Job hunting for pilots $38.00cdn, 2. Landing the big job $45.00. The second book is a little out of date, but both are pretty good books for resume building and job hunting tactics.

Last but not least PCC has a resume package were they build it for ya.....for a pretty penny of course.

200hr Wonder · Post by **200hr Wonder** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:50 am

1st page is resume, second is references... I think that if they like me enough to call references that can flip to page to.

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:09 pm

One page is best, especially for a newbie. If you are applying for a direct entry Captain for Cathay Pacific, three pages ok.

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:48 pm

Gentlemen, I have done 4 resumes for free now and if you think I am doing a good job, its time for some compensation (my Mac is wearing out!).

If you still want a review of yours, pm me. I will not write a cover letter for you but I will edit and format one you've written.

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:31 pm

Hey guys, xsbank did a wonderful job with my resume. C'mon, give him 50 bucks and let him turn your trash into a wonder. It will pay off.

You can't afford not doing it after all your investments in your career.

Happy new year!

RB

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:49 am

i'd be willing to offer up my first born child to you if you help me get a twin job.
...and that, my friend, pretty much sums up why the aviation industry in Canada is in the state that is is in....

So, explain to me, since 1/2 are under the impression that "investing" in a resume service, xbank for 50 or PCC for 200 is anything different than buying a PPC, except for the price???

Firstly any good company will have an online application where you just need to fill out the blanks..

Secondly, a good company will have an HR dept, so they don't know that they should be looking at a "Doc approved" resume, and will probably toss out what "doc" and others think as the "accepted norm."

Good to see that we have Regency, and PCC, trying to make money off pilots instead of helping them out, and don't the Aviation college programs show you how to make an aviation resume while you're there for 3 years learning how to fly, from instructors who have real life 70X experience??

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:00 am

Hey guys, .... did a wonderful job with my resume. C'mon, give him 50 bucks and let him turn your trash into a wonder. It will pay off.

Just curious as to how your resume has improved? From your posts, it said you were flying for companies.... So, you obviously had a horrible resume, since you said our user has fixed that useless drivel you had written, which you called a CV. Now, how on earth did you manage to get a job earlier with that disgusting piece of toilet paper you called a resume???

and again, I'm not saying xbanks service is bad or good, I just want to know how all our supporters of resume services around here can say such things as "oh yeah, great service" xbank, pcc, or what not, when they were already flying, so they must have already had a job before the service, so obviously their incoherent and poorly written resume got them the job in the first place which does counter Doc's statement about bad resumes, since the bad resumes are obviously getting work...

ps, one line res usually works best, "Joe, i'm on my way up to the ramp, see you soon..." and getting there before the other 3 guys will probably get you on... but yeah, please invest in a resume service to get a job on the ramp, C150 time XXXX, loading planes zero hours, wonder who'll get the job....

desksgo · Post by **desksgo** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:25 am

I'm just wondering if you should operate an aircraft if you can't even write your own resume.

I am offering my service now too. After you get your incredible job from your uber-snazzy resume, I will come to work with you to make sure you don't choke on your sangwhich come lunchtime.

Let desksgo be your personal chewing coach, I can design a customized SOP to meet your needs:

1. Put food in mouth.
2. Bite food
3. Chew food until it is small enough to slide down your throat hole.
4. Slide food down throat hole to stomach. (try not to breath through mouth during process).
5. REPEAT with care.

K'I've a job?

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:16 am

CYYZ, my stuff is not fancy; in fact, this is what I do. From this:

"Just curious as to how your resume has improved? From your posts, it said you were flying for companies.... So, you obviously had a horrible resume, since you said our user has fixed that useless drivel you had written, which you called a CV. Now, how on earth did you manage to get a job earlier with that disgusting piece of toilet paper you called a resume???

and again, I'm not saying xbanks service is bad or good, I just want to know how all our supporters of resume services around here can say such things as "oh yeah, great service" xbank, pcc, or what not, when they were already flying, so they must have already had a job before the service, so obviously their incoherent and poorly written resume got them the job in the first place which does counter Doc's statement about bad resumes, since the bad resumes are obviously getting work...

ps, one line res usually works best, "Joe, i'm on my way up to the ramp, see you soon..." and getting there before the other 3 guys will probably get you on... but yeah, please invest in a resume service to get a job on the ramp, C150 time XXXX, loading planes zero hours, wonder who'll get the job...."

To something like this:
"How has your new resume improved your chances of getting work? If a pilot is employed, how did he get that job with a poor resume? For low-timers, I think calling ahead and arriving in person is a better way to get a job."

Most of us write resumes once every few years when we need another job. Anybody can write a resume if they do the work. Anyone. I'm saving you some work. If you do not think I can help you out, take your money to the bar - some people get jobs there, too.

A 200 hour pilot is a hard sell, but a fancy resume does not do the work. You still need to make contact and impress the employer that you are the best candidate.

My resumes will not get binned without being read.

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:33 am

CYYZ,

I get my jobs mostly by talking with the people and then sending my resume for their pilot files.

They don't hire the paper but the guy they talked with, or better, they met. This is how it usually worked so far.

On some other times, like right now when the business is slow, specially in my case, relatively high-time but with no valid IFR thus very limited, a more professional looking resume gives me a better image and this can't hurt.

I send it worldwide, to places I can not go to meet with the employers. All they have is the paper and I want them to call me. Some employers want good, readable paperwork from their pilots.

For a cost which represents a tiny fraction of one hour of training in a single, or for the price of a book, it is well worth the investment.

My revamped resume is all on one page and it describes 34 years of experience, presented in a very clear and neat format. It makes me look better, period.

And before I forget, happy new year!

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