"Bingo" Fuel?

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"Bingo" Fuel?

Post by captain_v1.0 »

Okay this has been baffling me for a long time. Does anybody know the origin of the term "Bingo" in Bingo fuel.

The closest response I got that has made sense was "BINGO because your fuel is under the O." Kind of a smart a$$ response but it seems probable.
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Post by Skosh »

Not sure if you're looking for an origin of the word, or what it implies.

I don't really know why the word BINGO is used, but it holds a very important meaning in military aviation. In general, its a pre-briefed amount of fuel that, when reached, you need to go home.

For example, in the hornet world, we typically will brief a 3500lb bingo (VFR), giving us 1500 lbs to get home, and 2000 lbs of slush - pattern work, potential delays due to other traffic, etc...

IFR is another story. We need gas to get home, shoot an approach and get to our alternate (if one is required,) hold at the alternate, shoot an approach, and land with a certain amount.

On top of our Bingo, we usually add 2000 lbs and call that Joker. Its kind of a heads up that we are getting close to Bingo. Once Joker is called (both Bingo and Joker are called on a common good guy frequency,) it gives the formation lead an idea of how much more fighting time we will have before we need to run away bravely for tea and medals.

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Post by oldtimer »

It all started when an overzealous student called to say he was still in the practice area with extra fuel. The dispatcher/controller told him it was getting close to supper time and home field was where the food was . So the student pilot asks "Will I have to land soon?"
Reply "Bingo".
I think??
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Post by cloudcounter »

Not sure how this applies but brings it to mind.
My neighbour old time bushman had a dog once called Bingo who wandered a bit and was scared $hitless of rifles
[ We live in the bushnik 'country' ]
...so he would go outside the cabin and fire off his rifle and the dog would show shortly from wherever
lol
so it does confirm ' return affirm 'right? :D
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Post by paddy »

The American Government has hundreds of locations across the globe where military aircraft can land (various small Islands etc.) which are referred to as "Bingo Points." These points are not designated as alternates, but as last resort if your stuck and have to get somewhere (due to extended battle time etc.). If you can still make a "Bingo Point" you have "Bingo Fuel."
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Post by Brewguy »

I'm sorry, but I can't find an actual reference for this ... so you can take my word for it (or not, your choice).

My understanding, is that "Bingo" was a WWII era military (specifically Navy aviation) term, to indicate a "critically low" supply of something. This could be fuel, ammunition, oxygen, etc.

It was likely based on someones phonetic alphabet at the time. Our current NATO / ICAO phonetic alphabet didn't develop in its current form until the 1950's. During WWII, each branch of the service seemed to have their own. Example "B" in the RAF was for "Beer" (not Bravo). It's entirely possible that Navy aviation used Bingo as their "B".

....maybe Bingo was to indicate falling back to plan B?
(that last sentence was entirely speculation, but the rest is stuff I've heard from the old timers at the Legion & Air Force Association)
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Post by ScudRunner »

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq101-1.htm


Here's a link to some historical phonetic alphabet's.
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Post by the_professor »

Skosh wrote:For example, in the hornet world, we typically will brief a 3500lb bingo (VFR), giving us 1500 lbs to get home, and 2000 lbs of slush - pattern work, potential delays due to other traffic, etc...
What's the Hornet's fuel burn? Cruise (i.e. M0.88 or whatever) vs. afterburner? I guess ordinance vs. none would also make a difference?
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Post by kingeddie »

As a point of interest the CL415 Uses the term BINGO on the FQMS page on the IIDS display for setting minimum return fuel . Interesting because when you pull up the page to set your value it actually says BINGO . Just another useless fact like your wifes birthday
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It is probably a north american invention, because the word, and the game Bingo mean nothing to the rest of the world. A lot of countries, when declaring their fuel status, still use the word: "Ditching"
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