Elementary maintenance on 705 aircraft

anywaiss · Post by **anywaiss** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:29 pm

does anyone know if it is legal for pilots to perform elementary maintenace on a 705 aircraft? ex. check oil? etc...

if anyone can find it in the cars it would be great

CD · Post by CD » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:41 pm

These should be the relevant links:

605.85 Maintenance Release and Elementary Work
625.85 Maintenance Release and Elementary Work
Standard 625 APPENDIX A - ELEMENTARY WORK
725.124(20) Minimum Equipment List (MEL) Training

Aeros · Post by **Aeros** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:09 pm

anywaiss wrote:does anyone know if it is legal for pilots to perform elementary maintenace on a 705 aircraft? ex. check oil? etc...

if anyone can find it in the cars it would be great

It is totally legal, assuming that the crew member has been trained in accordance with the references that CD posted -- and of course the Operator needs to have a procedure that allows them to carry out those tasks.

Turd Ferguson · Post by **Turd Ferguson** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:59 pm

If your are referring to a CRJ 705. Checking the oil is as simple as pushing the menu function on the synoptic page. The quanity will be displayed is a percentage of the oil quanity remaining ie. 85%. Soooo. Seen some of my colleagues checking the oil in YWG with the engine dipstick. Whassup?
Turd

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:09 am

Maybe they have been trained in accordance with the reg's and they are too smart to trust computers or guages? What you've never dipped a fuel tank that supposedly had enough fuel on the guage (for example)? Never had a computer "lie"?

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:32 am

"too smart to trust computers or guages?"

You're going to have a great future in glass cockpits, Donald.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:40 pm

xsbank, the system won't work if you get pilots questioning the reliability of computers and guages, hell that is almost as bad as questioning the people who mold these new pilots.

Its all about conforming to the lowest common denominator so every monkey reacts exacly the same.

bandit1 · Post by **bandit1** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:01 pm

and that my friends, is exactly what Air Canada is looking for when they interview pilots.

Explains why alot of great pilots get the PFO letter.

Well said Cat.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:13 pm

Thank you Bandit!

Troubleshot · Post by **Troubleshot** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:22 pm

Turd Ferguson wrote:If your are referring to a CRJ 705. Checking the oil is as simple as pushing the menu function on the synoptic page. The quanity will be displayed is a percentage of the oil quanity remaining ie. 85%. Soooo. Seen some of my colleagues checking the oil in YWG with the engine dipstick. Whassup?
Turd

The gauge is only as smart as the sending unit, if the sender is stuck at 90% thats what gauge will read even though you oil sump quantity is 40% and requires oil...they fail this way all the time on new or old aircraft as most systems use a Capacitance system to relay info to the gauge...they fail to a certain resistance and transmit the same reading for a long time...so if you notice your oil quantity is staying the same all day, check the scupper/dip stick to be sure

Elementary maintenance on 705 aircraft

Elementary maintenance on 705 aircraft

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