Has anyone here done Georgian College's aviation management program? What have you guys heard about it. I'm going to be taking it and after I have completed it I might apply to NavCan for ATC.
Good program? Where can it take you?
Any Georgian AVIA graduates?
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BeechjetYKZ
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If you are planning to do atc, theres really no point going to the college for an aviation program as its not required, and probably wont help you with ATC. Try writting the test for ATC and see if you get accepted for an interview. If you can get on with NAVCAN at your age you'd be way ahead of the curve.
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bob sacamano
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Like the post above says. If you want to go to NavCan, no need for the georgian college diploma.
I've seen air traffic controllers that were waiters before and didn't know what to do, then one day decided to apply to navcan and now are licenced controllers.
Sometimes NavCan holds the initial exams at the Barrie campus, if there is a large number that wants to apply. I've seen that done a few years ago.
The diploma itself is ok, no flight training, just books. It's not expensive, and it looks good on a resume, depending what you want to do in the future.
They have also been in talks with ERAU to provide the full degree at the Barrie campus. It would cost a fraction of what it would usualy cost for a student to go south to daytona. Instead of daytona beach though, you get wasaga. Colder water, and alot more italian hoodlems to deal with.
The course didn't have anything about ATC, some courses help, such as aircraft recognition taught by Syme.
He was by far the best prof. there, if you get on his good side and get through the first year.
The program has since gone to the Business section, so expect alot of business/management courses.
As for where can it take you, you take yourself, it doesn't take you anywhere. A high percentage end up with the GTAA, start from the bottom, usually make connections during your co-op, and then go back.
There are airline pilots, bush pilots, ATC, managers of airports/airlines, etc. So really, you can go anywhere you want. I know that in Ontario, it has a good reputation.
If atc is what you want, take the aptitude tests now, and skip the 3 years there.
I've seen air traffic controllers that were waiters before and didn't know what to do, then one day decided to apply to navcan and now are licenced controllers.
Sometimes NavCan holds the initial exams at the Barrie campus, if there is a large number that wants to apply. I've seen that done a few years ago.
The diploma itself is ok, no flight training, just books. It's not expensive, and it looks good on a resume, depending what you want to do in the future.
They have also been in talks with ERAU to provide the full degree at the Barrie campus. It would cost a fraction of what it would usualy cost for a student to go south to daytona. Instead of daytona beach though, you get wasaga. Colder water, and alot more italian hoodlems to deal with.
The course didn't have anything about ATC, some courses help, such as aircraft recognition taught by Syme.
He was by far the best prof. there, if you get on his good side and get through the first year.
The program has since gone to the Business section, so expect alot of business/management courses.
As for where can it take you, you take yourself, it doesn't take you anywhere. A high percentage end up with the GTAA, start from the bottom, usually make connections during your co-op, and then go back.
There are airline pilots, bush pilots, ATC, managers of airports/airlines, etc. So really, you can go anywhere you want. I know that in Ontario, it has a good reputation.
If atc is what you want, take the aptitude tests now, and skip the 3 years there.
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I would recommend taking the Georgian Aviation Management Course. I found the program to be an excellent experience. You will have the opportunity to look at various facets of aviation. It is a generalist course which is a great platform to begin your aviation career. I took the program and continued with flight training and am now working as a pilot. I didn't need the course to be a pilot as you don’t to be an air traffic controller. However, having a college diploma in my opinion will help you further your career later on down the road. The college experience is far more than a peace of paper.
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I started the program and went for 2 years but then quit as I was accepted by ATC off the street. The transfer agreement with ERAU is very, very nice as it saved me maybe $40k over the full 4 year ERAU program when I decided to upgrade my education later on. Get your BSc through ERAU and you're set up nice for later at AC. Also, if you plan on working stateside in aviation, an ERAU degree is well recognized.
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I started the program and went for 2 years but then quit as I was accepted by ATC off the street. The transfer agreement with ERAU is very, very nice as it saved me maybe $40k over the full 4 year ERAU program when I decided to upgrade my education later on. Get your BSc through ERAU and you're set up nice for later at AC. Also, if you plan on working stateside in aviation, an ERAU degree is well recognized.
I took the program, and wanting to be a pilot (or possibly get into maintenance) regret it now in a way. If I could re-do it I would have taken a trade or something along that line. I say this only because I have no desire to work at an airport, management, operations etc. I like aviation because I like flying/mechanics.
I found the course to look great in a course syllabus (sp?) but not so great in class. Alot of the courses on paper weren't offered when I took it (And Im saying a fair number). I dont think any of the profs who taught the core subjects had any solid background in the business...most were engineers (non-aviation related).
I dont want to sound like Im knocking it. But if you want to fly or get into ATC...and thats a big reason why your considering it, dont waste your money. Like someone mentioned, its a very generalized look at the business...if you enjoy the airport scene then its not a bad idea. The co ops can also help you along the way for sure. The college experience itself was alot of fun...Georgian has excellent facilities.
Did the ERAU agreement ever go through? I remember all 3 years they kept promoting this agreement...when I left they were still "talking". I wouldnt mind taking that if its now finally offered.
I found the course to look great in a course syllabus (sp?) but not so great in class. Alot of the courses on paper weren't offered when I took it (And Im saying a fair number). I dont think any of the profs who taught the core subjects had any solid background in the business...most were engineers (non-aviation related).
I dont want to sound like Im knocking it. But if you want to fly or get into ATC...and thats a big reason why your considering it, dont waste your money. Like someone mentioned, its a very generalized look at the business...if you enjoy the airport scene then its not a bad idea. The co ops can also help you along the way for sure. The college experience itself was alot of fun...Georgian has excellent facilities.
Did the ERAU agreement ever go through? I remember all 3 years they kept promoting this agreement...when I left they were still "talking". I wouldnt mind taking that if its now finally offered.
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Pete is right. It is a business program that has an aviation management flavor to it. I also took it to get into flying or ATC (eventually became a Pilot) and left after 2 years. I have never regretted the decision and it hasn't seemed to hold me back.
If you are planning to work in the operations side, either airports or airlines, then the program is an asset. For ATC It's not necessary, but it can be a tough go and it would be nice to have the diploma to fall back on.
Dispatchers also do not require post secondary and many folks are getting the jobs with only the TC exams written. This is partly due to increased demand and it may not always remain that way. You could jump in while the industry is warm or get the education and risk a cooler market upon graduation. A market that will eventually warm back up again.
Either way, an education is never a waste of time and if you do decide to jump right in, nothing says you can't go back and get a diploma or degree later.
If you are planning to work in the operations side, either airports or airlines, then the program is an asset. For ATC It's not necessary, but it can be a tough go and it would be nice to have the diploma to fall back on.
Dispatchers also do not require post secondary and many folks are getting the jobs with only the TC exams written. This is partly due to increased demand and it may not always remain that way. You could jump in while the industry is warm or get the education and risk a cooler market upon graduation. A market that will eventually warm back up again.
Either way, an education is never a waste of time and if you do decide to jump right in, nothing says you can't go back and get a diploma or degree later.
