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Multi- IFr

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:40 pm
by fly1_777
Hey GUys,

I knw this is really annoyin for askin you guys again n again for where to do MIFR ? But i would really like to know the best place to do Multi Ifr in a quick , cheap n efficient way ? Thanks for ur help guys would really appreciate it.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:18 pm
by Morav
Burlington airpark- Spectrum Airways
Piper Seneca
Good rate
Friendly instructors
close to GTA

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:41 pm
by Louis
Given the size of Canada, and the sheer amount of flight schools within, would you care to give us a general location you might prefer doing your training in?

If you truly have no restrictions or preference as to location, tell us as well, so that the people on here can answer properly.

And in case you were wondering, the school I am currently flying at doesn't have a multi. And the one where I did my MIFR is a three-year college program (Chicoutimi College).

Goodbye,

Louis

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:23 am
by fly1_777
well i would prefer in and around the GTA . bUt if thers nothing around i am willing to get out of the GTA as well.. soooo

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:37 am
by cyyz
fly1_777 wrote:well i would prefer in and around the GTA . bUt if thers nothing around i am willing to get out of the GTA as well.. soooo
lol, only like 10 flight schools in the gta alone....

They're all the same 220-280/hr,

quick in most circumstances is dependant on your ability and skills...

a good majority of the outfits have multi-ifr drivers who have never flown IMC or away from their school so you won't learn anything practical at one place or another....

YTZ - ferry fee and most expensive
YKZ - Expensive
YOO - Owned by YKZ
NC3(brampton) - Expensive
PH7(markham) - save 30$ or so vs YKZ.

Take whatever is closest to you, you'll save gas, and in bad wx you won't miss a flight and be charged for it.

Meet the instructor, talk to him, do a sim with him... If he's a douche, tell him to @#$! off and move to the next airport.... If he's okay, stick with him...

PS. I think the CFA despite being owned by kz has a 40/hr sim, which is the cheapest in the area... Unless it's changed...

and they all have seminoles.. so it doesn't matter...

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:09 am
by Pete
No ferry fee at ytz anymore. Thank you Mr Porter :D hehe. I wish it was like that when I did my PPL there!

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:55 pm
by Krashman
As long as you have your INRAT done.... then I would suggest either Pro IFR in BC or Harv's in MB... the steinbach location

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:49 pm
by cyyz
Krashman wrote:As long as you have your INRAT done.... then I would suggest either Pro IFR in BC or Harv's in MB... the steinbach location
If we are suggesting out of province, I'd go to perimeter get a ramp job there and get your multi-ifr done while you're waiting to go online....

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:52 pm
by Crazymax
cyyz wrote:
Krashman wrote:As long as you have your INRAT done.... then I would suggest either Pro IFR in BC or Harv's in MB... the steinbach location
If we are suggesting out of province, I'd go to perimeter get a ramp job there and get your multi-ifr done while you're waiting to go online....
Have a not so great instruction and wait 2 years for a right seat in the Metro while being paid at 8$ and hour?

Max

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:05 pm
by cyyz
Crazymax wrote:Have a not so great instruction and wait 2 years for a right seat in the Metro while being paid at 8$ and hour?
Where does he plan to go with his newly minted IFR ticket? tindi, buffalo?

Unless he's an overseas student, in which case it doesn't matter where he goes to do it, they'll give him his ride and ship him back.

To fly to BC is a day trip, he could be 1 day ahead in his training if he just goes to Toronto Airways... "speed/quick"

Cheap, well a ticket to BC will cost him 1000, so whats 50/hr in price difference for an aircraft.

Best - overall the level of training will be the same anywhere he goes, on average. Cat Driver can teach us all in a seminar room for 1 day, and the results of knowledge the class will have learned will vary from student to student... Steven Hawking has numerous books, why aren't we all as smart as him after reading them? If your a tool it doesn't matter whos teaching you, and if your a good learner, you'll figure the material out no matter who is teaching... And once you get it if you're not flying IFR you won't remember it in 1-2 years anyways....

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:10 pm
by Crazymax
cyyz wrote:
Crazymax wrote:Have a not so great instruction and wait 2 years for a right seat in the Metro while being paid at 8$ and hour?
Where does he plan to go with his newly minted IFR ticket? tindi, buffalo?

Unless he's an overseas student, in which case it doesn't matter where he goes to do it, they'll give him his ride and ship him back.

To fly to BC is a day trip, he could be 1 day ahead in his training if he just goes to Toronto Airways... "speed/quick"

Cheap, well a ticket to BC will cost him 1000, so whats 50/hr in price difference for an aircraft.

Best - overall the level of training will be the same anywhere he goes, on average.
My point is that there are better ramp jobs than Perimeter with shorter wait. I don't think the instruction itself justify the crappy job/extremely long wait...

Max

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:32 pm
by fly1_777
hey guys

can u guys tell me which flying schools have a seneca 2 or 3 for there MIFR operatins.


Thanks

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:07 am
by cyyz
juan air
montair

burlington(morav says so)

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:45 pm
by Krashman
Yup Montair

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:12 pm
by Flyin' Hi
Apparently Harvs Air in Manitoba has one, but it has forty million hours on it, and I hear that the avionics are nothing to look forward to. Anyway might be ok???