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mercenary pilots

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:10 pm
by 27pilot
Just curious. Where are mercenary pilots working these days? DR Congo? Somalia? Central America? Anybody know?

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:29 pm
by Ralliart
Do you mean missionary pilots?

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:35 pm
by swede
I think he means merc's. I think they all work for the cia doing stuff like renditions, i.e., dropping poor beggars from places like gitmo in countries, and I mean any country, anywhere, that are willing to dissappear them. You would have to be a merc at heart to do that stuff, regardless of who signs your paycheque.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:32 am
by 27pilot
"Mercenary" is what I meant.

I'm not in agreement with missionary work.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:38 am
by cyyz
Your best bet would be to google merc's and find one of their forums.

Executive Outcomes(one of the former bigger operators) didn't have an aviation department. I'm guessing the guerrillas/gov't/mercenary agencies charter out.

I think you might be thinking of drug/weapon smugglers("lord of war")??

and if you're thinking of "Air America" type of "mercenary" type deals, it's all governmental agencies, and you'll have a tough time getting in.

Why do you ask???

PS. Where ever they're fighting, is where you'll find "merc pilots," logisticsally someone needs to be chartering in merc ground troops + supplies.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:22 am
by Snow Monkey
Dyncorp
http://www.dyn-intl.com/

I understand they used to doing some Air America type flying

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:41 pm
by Rudy
Image
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:15 pm
by Doc
Rudy...is that a KTM?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:34 pm
by youngflier
most work for air canada

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:26 pm
by cyyz
Nice post Snow, Dyncorp does look like a good choice..

Also L3-communications,

http://www.l-3com.com/

if this is what we were talking about as "merc" hiring.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:45 pm
by Rudy
Oh,
Dyncorp. That's even worse. Their employees were part of a sex slavery ring in Bosnia.

Doc, Nope it's a Honda.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:11 pm
by Doc
You meet the nicest people on a Honda.

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:35 am
by cyyz
Doc wrote:You meet the nicest people on a Honda.
I feel offended by doc's new avatar... <grrrr> sexy...

But I won't complain, because I believe in DDoc's freedom of "speech"

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:07 pm
by 27pilot
I was curious about merc flying as I have been doing more reading about current events lately. If someone wanted to, I think he could just go to a war-tone area like DR Congo or Somalia and offer his services as a merc pilot to a militia or a government. That is my impression.

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:44 pm
by Rudy
27pilot wrote:If someone wanted to, I think he could just go to a war-tone area like DR Congo or Somalia and offer his services as a merc pilot to a militia or a government. That is my impression.
Sounds well thought out.

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:34 pm
by cyyz
Rudy wrote:
27pilot wrote:If someone wanted to, I think he could just go to a war-tone area like DR Congo or Somalia and offer his services as a merc pilot to a militia or a government. That is my impression.
Sounds well thought out.
what part of that was "well thought out?"

The governments don't need pilots, they need equipment, if you brought your own gunship(huey's/Mi-8's), or herc, maybe they'll take you.

I don't think a 172 will cut it either, they need transports, and a few helicopters, all of which they aquire from the russians for dirt cheap and the equipment is crewed.

Also, I don't think you'll be able to log the time, or you can "log it" but i'm not sure who will hire you on your word that you were flying Ilyushin XXX's.. In a war torn part of africa for the rebels or for the government.

Don't go to those parts of the world offering your services... Go to a reputable merc company and apply. Or a reputable logistics company, dyncorp, l3 and apply, and maybe they'll give you a shady job...

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:41 pm
by rotorfloat
There's also Blackwater USA

Currently hiring rotary only though...

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:38 pm
by Rudy
Yeah, that was sarcasm sorry. It's obviously ridiculous.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:24 pm
by 27pilot
I talked to one guy who got his instrument rating at Pro IFR a while ago. He flew a Caravan in Kenya. He said that he knows some pilots that flew light twins in the DR Congo and that militias had offered them money to transport troops and supplies. My impression was that they did not accept the job.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:39 am
by 1000 HP
If you get caught flying as a merc, be prepared to lose your citizenship. Of course, so what? :shock:

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:54 am
by Cat Driver
Hmmmm, if you get caught flying as a merc in some countries losing your citizenship will be your last worry.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:03 am
by 2R
If you have to ask.You have already failed the pre-employment intelligence test :wink: :wink:

Do not worry .If you have the skills they need they will find you .
Just keep in mind that it is cheaper to use a Fifty cent bullet than pay you for your services.Do not expect any less from that kind of work

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:40 am
by 180
27pilot wrote:"Mercenary" is what I meant.

I'm not in agreement with missionary work.
I've been laughing my ass off for the last five minutes...good one. :lol:

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:19 pm
by frontside_air
what happened to the pilots of the 727s after thatcher's failed coup in eq. guinea?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:21 pm
by 27pilot
Hi 180,

I don't get what is so funny. Please share.