Boeing paints Canada's first C-17 airlifter

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:26 am

Boeing paints Canada's first C-17 airlifter
By Craig Hoyle

The Canadian Forces’ first of four C-17 strategic transports has moved a step closer to delivery, with the aircraft having received its national markings in the paint shop at Boeing’s Long Beach manufacturing site in California early this month.

Now seen carrying the designation 701, the aircraft will be delivered to CFB Trenton, Ontario on 9 August as part of a military transformation process also to include the acquisition of Lockheed Martin C-130J tactical transports and Boeing CH-47 Chinook transport helicopters.

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Ottawa’s second C-17 will be handed over in October, with its remaining two scheduled to arrive in the first quarter of 2008. The aircraft will join Canada’s 8 Wing, which already operates Lockheed Martin C-130E/Hs and Airbus A310 tanker-transports from Trenton.

Canada will follow the USA, the UK and Australia in introducing the C-17 into air force service, with NATO also close to signing for a pooled fleet of up to four of the aircraft to be operated on behalf of 17 alliance and Partnership for Peace nations.

Click the link for a picture.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... ifter.html

CD · Post by CD » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:45 am

Looking good!

Shiny Side Up · Post by **Shiny Side Up** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:37 pm

Damn, still painting them bureaucratic grey. I was hoping for the old style white and silver with red striping.

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:22 pm

Does anyone know what the official Froces designation for it will be? CC-117 was already allocated to the Falcon 20.

SAR_YQQ · Post by **SAR_YQQ** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:39 pm

CC-177 is the official CF designation

We will take delivery of 701 this august with 702 in the fall - 703 and 704 to follow in 2008.

Lommer · Post by **Lommer** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:40 am

Hey -YQQ, has the CF already done selection for the initial crews? Any word on when training will start and how soon we'll see these baby's in operational service?

TheCheez · Post by **TheCheez** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:14 am

First crews and techs are trained. They've been in the US for awhile now. 429 Squadron is being stood up in Trenton late July and with the delivery August 8 I believe, everything should be ready or close to.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:55 am

Hope we can take delivery before the liberals get back into office and cancel everything.

Big Pratt · Post by **Big Pratt** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:15 am

...at which point I hope that the Liberals get into office and approve stem cell research so that NDP can grow themselves a spine and some balls...

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:04 pm

Hedley wrote:Hope we can take delivery before the liberals get back into office and cancel everything.

SAD BUT TRUE!!!

Billanstey · Post by **Billanstey** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:23 am

Good old colors

Zapp Brannigan · Post by **Zapp Brannigan** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:45 pm

Big Pratt wrote:...at which point I hope that the Liberals get into office and approve stem cell research so that NDP can grow themselves a spine and some balls...

very nice

red-neck · Post by **red-neck** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:36 am

Thats gonna be an interesting learning curve from a King Air at 10 000 lbs to just shy of 600 000lbs with a grand total of 200 hrs under ones belt

TheCheez · Post by **TheCheez** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:44 pm

cpl_atc wrote:Can someone tell me why the Canadian military insists on assigning it's own designators to military aircraft? Are there actual differences in the specs between the US and Canadian C-17s?

Wasnt it only recently someone decided all the aircraft needed a 3 number designation? Not sure of the source though.

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:49 am

Looks nice!

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:08 am

Boeing Starts Flight Tests for Canada's First C-17

ST. LOUIS, July 25, 2007 -- The first of four Boeing [NYSE: BA] C-17 Globemaster IIIs for the Canadian Defense Forces took flight for the first time Monday, a major milestone leading to the aircraft's delivery on Aug. 8. With a takeoff weight of 460,000 pounds, (208,650 kg), the advanced airlifter lifted off from Long Beach, Calif., at 3:36 p.m. Pacific time, and flew for three hours and 45 minutes.

Led by Boeing production pilot Joel Brown, the seven-person crew put the C-17 through a series of functional checks, flying west over the Pacific Ocean, before returning to the facility where Boeing assembles and tests C-17s prior to delivery.

"For a first flight, we thought it performed exceptionally well," said Brown. "But our expectations are always high that the C-17 will perform well."

"We're looking forward to providing this world-class capability to our new customer, on time and on budget," said Dave Bowman, vice president and C-17 program manager. "The C-17 program continues to deliver on its commitment to execute flawlessly and deliver C-17s on time with the quality and reliability that has made the C-17 the best airlifter the world has ever seen."

http://boeingmedia.com/imageView.cfm?id=14958&ResID=5

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/200 ... 5b_pr.html

Goose757 · Post by **Goose757** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:17 am

cpl_atc wrote:
linecrew wrote:Looks nice!

The sign at the bottom-left of that picture actually says "Please Fly Quietly", doesn't it?

Yup. Those signs are made and distributed to airports all around the world by the people that live in the condos down by CYTZ

Bushav8er · Post by **Bushav8er** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:11 pm

Those are the numbers of the last old 707s, almost.

SAR_YQQ · Post by **SAR_YQQ** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:44 pm

red-neck wrote:Thats gonna be an interesting learning curve from a King Air at 10 000 lbs to just shy of 600 000lbs with a grand total of 200 hrs under ones belt

It works though.... Even more interesting is that after about 800 hrs he/she will be the aircraft captain.

Longtimer · Post by **Longtimer** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:18 pm

And if you had joined the Canadian forces, so could you have been.

stopsquawk · Post by **stopsquawk** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:04 pm

SAR_YQQ wrote: It works though.... Even more interesting is that after about 800 hrs he/she will be the aircraft captain.

Up until a few years ago, the A310, and previously, the Boeing, were not open to pipeline pilots. Has this changed? Will there be first tour pilots on the C-17?

Jercules · Post by **Jercules** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:13 pm

Even more interesting is that after about 800 hrs he/she will be the aircraft captain.

I'd wager that first tour pipeliners won't see an upgrade till tour 2. Still an outstanding opportunity though.

SAR_YQQ · Post by **SAR_YQQ** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:13 pm

There are pipeliners going directly on to the CC-177 fresh out of Portage.

The sacred-cow airframe mentality is something that is rapidly disappearing from the AF. The Polaris airframe was much vaunted, but now the AF can't hold on to their drivers as soon as they get their Airbus PPC. Putting pipes on to those airframes makes much more sense IMHO - they owe 7-9 years and could be enticed to stay with such buzz words as good pay, 100% job security, excellent benefits and demanding flying.

gryphon · Post by **gryphon** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:15 pm

The 310 still doesn't take pipes (haven't heard of any yet anyways), the C17 does and some have already been selected.

Boeing paints Canada's first C-17 airlifter

Boeing paints Canada's first C-17 airlifter

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