Onward Christian Soldiers!

Inverted2 · Post by **Inverted2** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:36 am

How stupid are these people??

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

Going to Afghanistan which is dangerous enough on a good day and then trying to convert the locals to Christianity?? You deserve to be abducted!!! Imagine if they came here and tried to convert us to Islam. I think we have the Darwin award winners here!!

//edit by Sully to remove evidence of a red neck.

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:55 am

Where does it say they were trying to convert them? All I read was that they were doing volunteer work in a hospital. I think that deserves some humanitarian award rather than abduction.

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:02 am

//edit by Sully to remove reference to previous red-neck post.

Inverted...this forum is read by people all over the place. You do a fine job of showing everyone how Canadian's can be real hicks.

desksgo · Post by **desksgo** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:15 am

What would you die for?

Inverted2 · Post by **Inverted2** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:58 am

desksgo wrote:What would you die for?

Not that cause.

And no, it didn't say they were trying to convert them but what does a Christian group go over there for? Im sure they were passing a few bibles around

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:22 am

In the absence of any other information in the article, I'd say they went over there to volunteer in a hospital.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:55 pm

They weren't over there blowing themselves up in the name of Jesus to kill Muslims.

Can you see the difference?

desksgo · Post by **desksgo** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:01 pm

Living a life of servatude and helping your fellow man wherever posssible was supposed to be what all these books were about. Buddha, Allah, God, Jesus, Your Buddy, Samuel L. Jackson, Pan, Yaweh or whoever you're into would be best served with that mentality. I don't see what is wrong with serving in a hospital in Afgahnistan.

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:27 pm

Inverted2 wrote:
desksgo wrote:What would you die for?
Not that cause.

And no, it didn't say they were trying to convert them but what does a Christian group go over there for? Im sure they were passing a few bibles around

Well that shows how little you know! Another group I'm sure you'd hate - the Christian Peacekeepers - they love to get involved in those pesky wars and make life a littlemore difficult for the conflicting sides - y'know, making them think - something I doubt you do a lot of.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:07 pm

Ignorant fools. Same as that other jackass Christian group that got themselves taken hostage in Iraq.

Why would they choose to go to an Islamic country at civil war, knowing full well that one side hates them and doesn't want them there because of their religion? Under those circumstances they are not neutral aid workers. They are partisan workers for the one side willing to accept, or more likely merely tolerate, their presence.

Now that they are taken hostage, other people (Afghan police/military & coalition troops) will have to lay their lives on the line to rescue them. Humanitarianism my ass. It's nothing more than a self serving act of trying to make themselves look good in the eyes of their god. If they really wanted to engage in an ultruistic adventure, I sure they could find many places in the world that would welcome them.

... · Post by **...** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:15 am

desksgo wrote:What would you die for?

a bowl of chocolate ice-cream right about now...

This the best question ever posted on here;

I'd die for a child in grave danger whether if he/she were white, black, yellow or brown and no matter what the religion.

I'd die for my parents.

I'd make a deal with the Devil and exchange my life so that there will never be another airplane accident where young people die. Regardless how I feel about some of you assholes

However, I'd kill if witnessed anyone ever hurting a child.

I'd kill if I ever witnessed anyone hurting the elderly.

I'd kill if I had the chance to if anyone raped a woman or a child.

I'd hurt anyone that would ever hurt a fury person (a house hold pet).

I'd hurt anyone that would go out of their way to hurt me my family or anyone in my circle of friends.

Debate your religious views all you want.

However in the end Karma IS and interesting thing.

Jesus was the first peace keeper that liked to back pack going from town to town. Mohammad was a prolific speaker and should have been in Woodstock introducing the next band, and Mozes liked smoking dope hence the reason he kept everyone out of his special crop by prohibiting anyone from gowing up the hill.

The end.

El Comat · Post by **El Comat** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:54 pm

I am Birddog wrote: Jesus was the first peace keeper that liked to back pack going from town to town.

hahaha....that's the funniest (and most blatantly wrong) thing that I have come across in a long time. Jesus actually went against the religious flow of day 100%. He enraged the Pharisees so much that they plotted to kill him. They could not come close to matching his wits and they were extremely frustrated by this. Time and time again he showed them that their "religion" (following rules like a sheep) was worthless without the proper inward motives. The "Christians" that people hate today are just modern-day Pharisees, trying to look good and earn their way to heaven by doing "good" things (while also trying to Bible-thump their peers into submission). The Christians that got abducted by the Taliban probably do not fall in this category. They are the ones that give freely of their time and money with a genuine desire to help. Sure they have end goal of seeing people convert to Christianity, but they achieve that goal by showing God's love, not by scaring the locals. Regardless of their motives, they were just trying to help their "brothers" and "sisters". No one deserves to be abducted while doing this.

EC

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:29 pm

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Too many Christians, not enough Lions.

Happy Church day tomorrow everyone...

stl

... · Post by **...** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:53 pm

You glorify the past while the future dries up. Whom ever this 'Jesus' was...it happened 2000 years ago. Rumours in my own company get mixed up and come out different than from the original story. And that’s just going through a few people. How can you justify the story about Jesus is true and accurate when it has gone through millions of peoples interpolation and over 2000 years handed down from generations...of corrupt men.

If anything, your version is as "blatantly wrong" as mine maybe. Who the phuck are you OR I to assume this man even existed. OR any of these religions and 'prophets' men decide to die for in the name of the most correct religion or belief?

Religion is for the weak because when the laws of religious beliefs fail, the laws of the jungle prosper.

Whatever...just sayin'

I'm out.

El Comat wrote:
I am Birddog wrote: Jesus was the first peace keeper that liked to back pack going from town to town.
hahaha....that's the funniest (and most blatantly wrong) thing that I have come across in a long time. Jesus actually went against the religious flow of day 100%. He enraged the Pharisees so much that they plotted to kill him. They could not come close to matching his wits and they were extremely frustrated by this. Time and time again he showed them that their "religion" (following rules like a sheep) was worthless without the proper inward motives. The "Christians" that people hate today are just modern-day Pharisees, trying to look good and earn their way to heaven by doing "good" things (while also trying to Bible-thump their peers into submission). The Christians that got abducted by the Taliban probably do not fall in this category. They are the ones that give freely of their time and money with a genuine desire to help. Sure they have end goal of seeing people convert to Christianity, but they achieve that goal by showing God's love, not by scaring the locals. Regardless of their motives, they were just trying to help their "brothers" and "sisters". No one deserves to be abducted while doing this.

EC

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:10 pm

Inverted, you're a dumbass.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:22 pm

I'd die for IABD

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:41 am

I am Birddog wrote:You glorify the past while the future dries up. Whom ever this 'Jesus' was...it happened 2000 years ago. Rumours in my own company get mixed up and come out different than from the original story. And that’s just going through a few people. How can you justify the story about Jesus is true and accurate when it has gone through millions of peoples interpolation and over 2000 years handed down from generations...of corrupt men.

Funny that you bring this up - many scholars have shown that the Quran is the same text as was originally written by Muhammad, interpretations may change, but it is the same text as they had a thousand years ago.

Not trying to stir up anything - just thought it was pretty cool.

taxiway_matthew · Post by **taxiway_matthew** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:57 am

You glorify the past while the future dries up. Whom ever this 'Jesus' was...it happened 2000 years ago. Rumours in my own company get mixed up and come out different than from the original story. And that’s just going through a few people. How can you justify the story about Jesus is true and accurate when it has gone through millions of peoples interpolation and over 2000 years handed down from generations...of corrupt men.

If anything, your version is as "blatantly wrong" as mine maybe. Who the phuck are you OR I to assume this man even existed. OR any of these religions and 'prophets' men decide to die for in the name of the most correct religion or belief?

Religion is for the weak because when the laws of religious beliefs fail, the laws of the jungle prosper.

Whatever...just sayin'

I'm out.

Oh boy, I hope you're not a history major, because that would be a sad declaration on our academic system.

Now let's just look at this logically, instead of factually first. You're doubting anything said about Jesus just because it happened so long ago? With this kind of logic, we have no history, for everything has been passed down, so how can you take anything historical at face value? Or is it that everything historical is ok, you just wish Jesus never existed? Hmm.

Now onto factual. Apollo makes a good point, the Quar'an has been unchanged, more or less, for 1500, same goes for the Bible. Ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? 900 documents found in the 50s in caves in the West Bank, that contain the writings of the Bible from BEFORE 100AD, and Jesus died around 33AD...67years to get the rumour mill going. Oh and guess what, everything in the Dead Sea Scrolls, sans some interpretive and linguistic difference, is the same as any Bible out there today.

Lastly, if you study Catholic doctrine, you will see any Catholic teaching has gone unchanged. Now before you come shooting at me with the Earth is flat, Galileo, limbo, or any other 'teaching', I'm talking about teachings regarding faith, and morals. Things like whether or not the earth revolves around the sun, or where unbaptized babies go after death, or at what age can one receive communion are not doctrinal and can be changed. But the Catholic Church, from the time of Peter and the Council of Jerusalem, until now, and forever into the future, has taught the same thing on anything relating to Jesus, ie. He was God, He was Man, He died to wash away sin, etc. Sure sounds like its been through the rumour mill, eh?

... · Post by **...** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:16 am

taxiway_matthew wrote:
Oh boy, I hope you're not a history major, because that would be a sad declaration on our academic system.

Firstly;

History is the version of past events that men have decided to agree upon.
-Napoleon Bonaparte

Secondly;

With Tammy Fey dead...will anyone ever go to Heaven now anyway? One look at her and the 'gates' will be closed for EVER.

This time I’m out for sure now.

swede · Post by **swede** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:27 am

El Comat wrote:
I am Birddog wrote: Jesus was the first peace keeper that liked to back pack going from town to town.
hahaha....that's the funniest (and most blatantly wrong) thing that I have come across in a long time. Jesus actually went against the religious flow of day 100%. He enraged the Pharisees so much that they plotted to kill him. They could not come close to matching his wits and they were extremely frustrated by this. Time and time again he showed them that their "religion" (following rules like a sheep) was worthless without the proper inward motives. The "Christians" that people hate today are just modern-day Pharisees, trying to look good and earn their way to heaven by doing "good" things (while also trying to Bible-thump their peers into submission). The Christians that got abducted by the Taliban probably do not fall in this category. They are the ones that give freely of their time and money with a genuine desire to help. Sure they have end goal of seeing people convert to Christianity, but they achieve that goal by showing God's love, not by scaring the locals. Regardless of their motives, they were just trying to help their "brothers" and "sisters". No one deserves to be abducted while doing this.

EC

Jesus was villified by all of the leaders of the Jews during his life. He made no browny points with them and never attempted to, he confronted them with some very uncomfortable truths. Such as telling them they were akin to whitewashed tombs, all shiny and presentable on the outside, full of rot and decay within. So, modern day evangelical types who try to attain heaven by their own "good works", are likely headed elsewhere.

Sheila · Post by **Sheila** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:36 pm

Show some respect people.

The reason they are going there is because they are trying to help the Christians being persecuted over there. You know the media always misrepresents them so try to have some class and not dride them for goodness sake!

Swede, I think the main flaw of the Pharisees was they wouldn't accept Jesus was the Messiah.

Snowgoose · Post by **Snowgoose** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:34 pm

Sheila wrote:Show some respect people.

The reason they are going there is because they are trying to help the Christians being persecuted over there. You know the media always misrepresents them so try to have some class and not dride them for goodness sake!

Swede, I think the main flaw of the Pharisees was they wouldn't accept Jesus was the Messiah.

Welcome back Chantal.

Miss this guy. Last I heard he went off the deep end

If ya don't mind, keep it in church. I did't ask you what you believe so why are you telling me?

Last time I checked religion was a topic not appropriate for mixed company conversation. Reason being that it's a belief and not a truth. You can argue until you're blue in the face but no one can win.

Sheila · Post by **Sheila** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:26 pm

Who the hell is Chantal?

You guys must really like this Chantal because you keep calling me Chantal.

And I don't understand where you're coming from Mr. Goose, I wasn't expressing beliefs. I just happen to like Christians because I have a few friends that are Christian.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:47 pm

I don't like Christians, for the same reason I don't like people who work at Starbucks, Walmart, and Enron..... They're part of something that I find distasteful, and will claim no responsibility for the negative aspects of their participation.

Now where are those lions when you need em...?

stl

... · Post by **...** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:34 pm

sky's the limit wrote:I don't like Christians, for the same reason I don't like people who work at Starbucks, Walmart, and Enron..... They're part of something that I find distasteful, and will claim no responsibility for the negative aspects of their participation.

Now where are those lions when you need em...?

stl

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