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Are you drunk or just chewing on some bad shrooms!
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As per the small jet allocation both Air Canada and ACPA have to be informed when Jazz is selecting an airframe with seating from 50-75. The business model will be looked at then the arbitrator will make his ruling whether it fits. Remember this even happened when Jazz received 8 CRJ-200's from Independence.

Remember a few years back when Bombardier painted an extra three CRJ 705's in Jazz colors and offered to swap them out with the installation of the in-flight entertainment. What happened to those?

Not saying Jazz will not get the above stated aircraft, I just haven't seen the memo.

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YAWN!!!!!! BORING!!!!.......... whats next?
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Post by Redwine »

Screw CPA renewal. I say, break away, buy bigger planes and compete head-on with AC and Westjet! No more arbitrators, union talk, scope clause, or any of that nonsense. Let Jazz compete against Air Canada and Westjet. I'm sure the consumer would welcome this with open arms too. They could still run their niche markets while building a larger and bigger fleet. All the while, at a cost 30% lower than the competitors....
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They are scoped on the amount of 705s they get. I think the max is 15. Anybody know anything difffernt?
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Redwine, that has happened before and it was called Independence Air. Didn't quite work out.
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I think the scope is getting re-scoped by that Teplinsky dude. I've heard that we are getting at least 1 705 to replace the one that got written off, but 5 more would be really nice.
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Why are you guys taking the bait?He's obviously trolling to stir the pot.
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Re: Jazz to get another Six RJ 705s

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jmad wrote:Im on the Rj out of YYZ....they have replaced the old 100 that crashed, with a 705...should be coming online in the coming weeks....its getting painted as we speak....Another 5 will be announced before this year is out.....

As for the people that slam this company....I think they most likely got PFO'd...We will get a big raise in 09...and i wouldnt be surprised if the jungle jets will be coming over from mainline....these are the rumors we keeping hearing....Its definately going to get better, the 100's will all be replaced for sure...We have new management that actually care now..Linthwaite will do a good job..

As for the the 200hr wonders...theres only 2 of them not 8 that everyone keeps talking about...thats a fact....its a trial period...

Jazz is a good place too work. they money sucks at first, but so does mailines.. big raises are coming guaranteed...

Excellent news!

Thanks
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I don't know who is the bigger troll here, hedwine, or Jmad. :roll:
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Post by Sprung »

the 100's will all be replaced for sure...
Eventually yes. But the company has been spending a lot of money on the 100's lately with EICAS 2000, GPS, upgraded ACARS and other mods. I don't see them leaving the fleet for some time yet.

I would be happy to see more 705's or even some 700's.
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Glen Quagmire wrote:Redwine, that has happened before and it was called Independence Air. Didn't quite work out.
Yes, however, the U.S. and Canadian markets are very different...
I would be very afraid if that were ever to happen... Stby for new atis message.
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jmad. where have you heard this. From who, where. etc?
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HERE ARE SOME FACTS: Jeff Rubin (chief economist and strategist-CIBC world markets) is saying oil is defintely going to at least $100 within 12 months from now. He is usually rgt. The us economy is in trouble with the housing market crash and debt problems, This will translate into much less us consumer spending starting in the next 12 months. At the same time , emerging economies will continue to grow, possible slowing after the olympics in 2008 in china. Mosts economists are calling for a significant increased chance of a us recession due to the above points. From a historical point of view a recession is definately due.
Airline analysists love westjet and have a buy for around 20-21. Air Canada is not liked at all by the same analyists and do not have a buy. Reasons are cost structure still too high, union issues shortly with contract renewal, and probably something else i cannot remember

Speculation: Rates will be cut shortly by the fed(usa) to try and stimulate the economy and will not work as the housing crash is a cascading effect. Inflation will increase(already high), a result of high oil price and Labour shotages (wage inflation) across canada/us with lots of retirments coming . As there is lots of liquidity in the world markets resulting in bond yields staying low and long term mortgages low. The short term rates will go higher and result in a inverted yield curve, which almost always precedes a recession. (short term money is more expensive than long)

What does that mean for the airlines: international travel will stay high with emerging economies growing, domestic travel may grow with increased retired people travelling-however with a recession travel will slow significantly. With people willing to pay less for their tickets and the costs to the airlines going up (oil price , labour, short term interest rates),
there will be a case for growth at JAzz with bigger CRJ 1000, 900, 705, 700. the emb will never be a t jazz in my opinion-who ever is saying that is full of sh*t.

west jet will continue to grow and capture maybe 50 % of the canadian domestic market but international growth is limited by their one a/c type, business model .

The next 3 yrs are going to be very interesting from an econiomics point of view.
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Thanks for the reply piggy. Forgive my ignorance but that still does not answer my original question.

Thanks anyways
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I hear they are going to run Dash 7s out of Lethbridge to Hinton.
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Post by Jaques Strappe »

jmad

You are misinformed about the Embraer, I heard that Jazz was getting the 787 delivery slots instead. :roll:

On one hand you bark that Jazz is getting the Embraers from Air Canada and then you go on about how controlling interest in Jazz has been sold.

If that is the case, then you don't need our Embraers do you?

I think you need to find a more stupid audience.
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I'm on the EMJ at Air Canada. When my job gets transferred to Jazz in '09 are there any other perks, other than a 30% pay cut, that I can look forward to? Thanks jmad! 8)
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piggy wrote:HERE ARE SOME FACTS: Jeff Rubin (chief economist and strategist-CIBC world markets) is saying oil is defintely going to at least $100 within 12 months from now. He is usually rgt. The us economy is in trouble with the housing market crash and debt problems, This will translate into much less us consumer spending starting in the next 12 months. At the same time , emerging economies will continue to grow, possible slowing after the olympics in 2008 in china. Mosts economists are calling for a significant increased chance of a us recession due to the above points. From a historical point of view a recession is definately due.
Airline analysists love westjet and have a buy for around 20-21. Air Canada is not liked at all by the same analyists and do not have a buy. Reasons are cost structure still too high, union issues shortly with contract renewal, and probably something else i cannot remember

Speculation: Rates will be cut shortly by the fed(usa) to try and stimulate the economy and will not work as the housing crash is a cascading effect. Inflation will increase(already high), a result of high oil price and Labour shotages (wage inflation) across canada/us with lots of retirments coming . As there is lots of liquidity in the world markets resulting in bond yields staying low and long term mortgages low. The short term rates will go higher and result in a inverted yield curve, which almost always precedes a recession. (short term money is more expensive than long)

What does that mean for the airlines: international travel will stay high with emerging economies growing, domestic travel may grow with increased retired people travelling-however with a recession travel will slow significantly. With people willing to pay less for their tickets and the costs to the airlines going up (oil price , labour, short term interest rates),
there will be a case for growth at JAzz with bigger CRJ 1000, 900, 705, 700. the emb will never be a t jazz in my opinion-who ever is saying that is full of sh*t.

west jet will continue to grow and capture maybe 50 % of the canadian domestic market but international growth is limited by their one a/c type, business model .

The next 3 yrs are going to be very interesting from an econiomics point of view.
Well said, should i get a fixed rate mortgage or a Variable?
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As for the the 200hr wonders...theres only 2 of them not 8 that everyone keeps talking about...thats a fact.
jmad.....

I just had a face to face talk with a Jazz instructor that just finished doing some orientation week training with 8 new college grads......thats a fact!

Do to that statement you made...I give no credibility to anything that you post

Well done in the troll department though
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Post by piggy »

qwert: with regards to locking in or variable is complex. Craig alexander with RBC did a study that basicly said long term rates will be low for the froseeable future. Based on a # of things but anybody can be wrong. It depends on the level of debt you have compared to job security and income. As well if it is an loan tied to an investment that can be written off. Also if you plan on selling, an assumed mortgage can help if rates are higher, but then penalty can hurt big time if your not porting you mortgage to another property.
technically , variable int rate mortgage will put you ahead of a fixed over the long term based on statistics as less int is paid.
The bank of canada is in an interesting bind, as the rising canadian dollar is killing ON and Quebec and posed to get stronger based on lower us int. rates and weaking us dollar. The inflation rate is above the banks comfort zone mainly due to western canada strength. The can bank held rates steady recently , a result of the us downturn and what that has in store for canada.
If can raise rates to calm inflation , oil price is also goes up which will also strengthen the dollar. the can dollar will strengthen more, and impact central canada even more.
interesting times !
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big raises are coming guaranteed...

LMAO! :lol:
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