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Wouldn't be so cool if this happened...
Cargo Pilots’ Aileron Roll Attempt Damages Learjet
At about 3:30 a.m. on January 10, the pilots flying a cargo-carrying Learjet 35 from Jacksonville, Fla., to Columbus, Ohio, for Airnet Systems attempted an aileron roll, according to the NTSB, but the maneuver wasn’t entirely successful. “The crew reported they did an intentional roll,” said NTSB investigator-in-charge Todd Fox. “There was substantial damage. The elevators were bent, and there was some stabilizer damage. Major damage was to the left wing; there was a large crease in the stainless-steel leading edge.” Fox was told that this was the last flight for the Learjet captain before he was to move on to a new job flying passengers for a Part 121 airline. Fox’s Chicago NTSB office will release, probably this week, a data-collection report on the incident. Data-collection reports are a new short form that is a combination of the typical preliminary and factual reports, Fox explained.
If you knew me you would know I wouldn't quite fit in at TC...
I just don't think it's OK to @#$! around with someone else's equipment. If I owned that jet I'd be pissed.
Where do you draw the line when it comes to fecking around in your machine and going beyond what it is designed to do?
I just don't think it's OK to @#$! around with someone else's equipment. If I owned that jet I'd be pissed.
Where do you draw the line when it comes to fecking around in your machine and going beyond what it is designed to do?
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I think a learjet can handle a PROPERLY FLOWN aileron roll. So can a Boeing (see Tex Johnston).going beyond what it is designed to do
Anyone here know Bobby Younkin? Didn't think so. He flew a Lear on the airshow circuit - did low-altitude aerobatics in it.

Clearly, there was nothing wrong with the machine that got bent.
There was everything wrong with the straight-and-level pilot that bent it. It's amazing how many of you guys think aerobatics is so trivial, that you can teach yourself how to do it in a minute or two. If you had a brain tumour, would you try to take it out by yourself on the kitchen table, with your electric drill and hacksaw?
These clowns might own the airplane and they might be fully trained fighter pilots for all we know, so it might have been reasonably safe. What should earn them a torn up pilot's licence though is rolling the plane with a bunch of passengers (clueless as they were) who weren't even strapped in.
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altiplano wrote: I just don't think it's OK to @#$! around with someone else's equipment.
My Wife vehemently disagrees with you.... Oh, you mean airplane???
Nothing wrong with it in my books - again/still, for the 400th time on this Forum. Boy are there some squares out there.
stl
PS, What do you think about rolling certain helicopter types???
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Here Here! Too many Nerds in Aviation.Nothing wrong with it in my books - again/still, for the 400th time on this Forum. Boy are there some squares out there.

As for Ceiling fans er Choppers Sign me up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGu45s1_ ... ed&search=
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Altiplano.
You are not really wrong. Just jerking your chain.
There is just to much of this complete denial and whining about the reality of pilots these days:
"dont do aerobatics with my aeroplane"
"dont fly drunk again"
"get your hand off my ass"
I think sometimes we have to put aside our moral indignation and just say "wow...neat"
You are not really wrong. Just jerking your chain.
There is just to much of this complete denial and whining about the reality of pilots these days:
"dont do aerobatics with my aeroplane"
"dont fly drunk again"
"get your hand off my ass"
I think sometimes we have to put aside our moral indignation and just say "wow...neat"
Accident speculation:
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Those that post don’t know. Those that know don’t post
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trey kule wrote:Altiplano.
You are not really wrong. Just jerking your chain.
There is just to much of this complete denial and whining about the reality of pilots these days:
"dont do aerobatics with my aeroplane"
"dont fly drunk again"
"get your hand off my ass"
I think sometimes we have to put aside our moral indignation and just say "wow...neat"
Thanks man, that made my day.

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