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Read this and discuss...

If a Nobel winning scientist shows it to be true is it? Are we taking PCness over the top by denying it? Is he simply a racist with no foundation?

Keep it clean. Please!

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/10/1 ... versy.html
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Everyone knows the first man on the moon had Scottish ancestors .Need we say anymore :wink: :wink:
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The Independent catalogued what it said were a series of controversial statements from Watson, including one in which he reportedly suggested women should have the right to abort their unborn children if tests could determine they would grow into homosexuals.
Abortion allowed only if your child is a homosexual.
is lecture, complete with slides of bikini-clad women, argued that extracts of melanin — which give skin its colour — had been found to boost subjects' sex drive.

"That's why you have Latin lovers," he said, according to people who attended the lecture. "You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English patient."


Latin lovers? English patients? A little too much movie watching?
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The Race Question is a UNESCO statement issued on 18 July 1950 following World War II. Signed by some of the leading researchers of the time, in the field of psychology, biology, cultural anthropology and ethnology, it questioned the foundations of scientific racist theories which had became very popular at the turn of the 20th century, alongside eugenics. These racist theories had been a main influence of the Nazi racial policies and eugenics program. The original statement was drafted by Ernest Beaglehole, Juan Comas, L. A. Costa Pinto, Franklin Frazier, sociologist specialized in race relations studies, Morris Ginsberg, founding chairperson of the British Sociological Association, Humayun Kabir, writer, philosopher and Education Minister of India twice, Claude Lévi-Strauss, one of the founders of ethnology and leading theorist of cultural relativism, and Ashley Montagu, anthropologist and author of The Elephant Man: A Study in Human Dignity, who was the rapporteur. The text was then revised by Ashley Montagu following criticisms submitted by Hadley Cantril, E. G. Conklin, Gunnar Dahlberg, Theodosius Dobzhansky, author of Genetics and the Origin of Species (1937), L. C. Dunn, Donald Hager, Julian Huxley, first director of UNESCO and one of the many key contributors to neo-Darwinian synthesis, Otto Klineberg, Wilbert Moore, H. G. Muller, Gunnar Myrdal, author of An American Dilemma: The Negro Problem and Modern Democracy (1944), Joseph Needham, a biochemist specialist of Chinese science, and geneticist Curt Stern. The statement included both a scientifical debunking of race theories and a moral condemnation of racism. It suggested in particular to "drop the term 'race' altogether and speak of "ethnic groups."

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The statement itself was composed of various points:

Scientists agree that "mankind is one: that all men belong to the same specie: Homo sapiens..."

"From the biological standpoint, the species Homo Sapiens is made up of a number of populations..." defined by genetic factors. However, the genes "responsible for the hereditary differences between men, are always few when compared to the whole genetic constitution of man and to the vast number of genes common to all human beings... This means that the likeliness among men are far greater than their differences."
"A race, from the biological standpoint, may therefore be defined as one of the group of populations constituting the species Homo sapiens... These represents variations, as it were, on a common theme." Differences are attributed to "somewhat different biological histories."

"In short, the term 'race' designates a group or population characterized by some concentrations, relative as to frequency and distribution, of hereditary particles (genes) or physical characters, which appear, fluctuate, and often disappear in the course of time by reason of geographic and or cultural isolation..."

The fifth point criticized the layperson use of the term "race": "To most people, a race is any group which they choose to describe as a race. Thus, many national, religious, geographic, linguistic or cultural groups have, in such loose usage, been called 'race', when obviously Americans are not a race, nor are Englishmen, nor are Frenchmen, nor any other national group. Catholics, Protestants, Moslems and Jews are not races... People who live in Iceland or England or India are not races; nor are people who are culturally Turkish or Chinese..."

Because of this popular misconception which assert a pseudo-scientific correspondence between "racial groups" and "national, religious, geographic, linguistic and cultural groups," the UNESCO advocated to "drop the term 'race' altogether and speak of "ethnic groups."
Further points stressed the "educability" and "plasticity" of the human being and the variability of biological populations, which evolved and inter-breeded together. It adamantly rejected any "degeneration" theory claiming that such miscegenation could "produces biologically bad effects." "There is, therefore, no biological justification for prohibiting inter-marriage.."

The 14th point asserted that : "The biological fact of race and the myth of 'race' should be distinguished. For all practical social purposes, 'race' is not so much a biological phenomenon as a social myth" which has "created an enormous amount of human and social damage." It "deprives civilization of the effective co-operation of productive minds." The UNESCO cited Charles Darwin's praise of cosmopolitanism in The Descent of Man (2nd ed., 1875, pp.187-8). It criticized theories of psychological egoism, underlining that "the whole of human history show that a co-operative spirit is not only natural to men, but more deeply rooted than any self-seeking tendencies. If this were not so we should not see the growth of integration and organization of his communities which the centuries and the millennia plainly exhibits."

The last points underlined that equality was a moral principle that had nothing to do with any biological or cultural differences. It recalled that "scientific evidence indicates that the range of mental capacities in all ethnic groups is much the same." It underlines the difference and non-correspondence between great "social changes" and change in the constitution of ethnic groups.

The 1950 UNESCO statement concluded by asserting once more that "biological differences as exist between members of different ethnic groups have no relevance to problems of social and political organizations, moral life and communication between human beings" and implicitly referred to Aristotle's definition of humankind by stating that "Man is born a social being."
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I think these guy's are pissed about the lecture cancellation ...

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corporate joe wrote:
is lecture, complete with slides of bikini-clad women, argued that extracts of melanin — which give skin its colour — had been found to boost subjects' sex drive.

"That's why you have Latin lovers," he said, according to people who attended the lecture. "You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English patient."


Latin lovers? English patients? A little too much movie watching?
LOL LOL LOL LOL... So white people have no sex drive eh??? I think this guy hasn't met our pet Haza... LOL
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SkyWolfe wrote:
corporate joe wrote:


Latin lovers? English patients? A little too much movie watching?
LOL LOL LOL LOL... So white people have no sex drive eh??? I think this guy hasn't met our pet Haza... LOL
Yeah but wanting and getting are two different things! :lol:
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As the Avcanada, "Pet", I deserve to be fed every once in a while...
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Toss the boy a bone! :lol:
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He already has one Chickaddd.
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Besides...I'm more of a taco person 8)
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