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Q about ME rating

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:24 pm
by 22l
Can the ME rating be done in the States with a Cnd licence and upon completion be used in Canada.

Re: Q about ME rating

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:11 am
by TC Guy
22l wrote:Can the ME rating be done in the States with a Cnd licence and upon completion be used in Canada.
Well, yes and no.

You can do the training in the USA. There is no minimum training requirement. In fact, I joked with a collegue the other day that someone could train using Microsoft Flight Simulator (not spending one hour in the actual aeroplane) -- and then pass the flight test.

As long as you pass the flight test, meet the requirements.

So, in short, you will be required to do a flight test, since you do not hold a US license.

I hope this helps.

-Guy

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:45 am
by Cat Driver
In fact, I joked with a collegue the other day that someone could train using Microsoft Flight Simulator (not spending one hour in the actual aeroplane) -- and then pass the flight test.
There is a definite advantage to using Microsoft Flight Simulator especially if you are a Canadian in that you can learn to fly it and practice raising and lowering the landing gear on every take off and landing.

That in its self will put you ahead of a lot of your Canadian friends who may have been trained under the new age gurus in Canadian flight schools. :smt023

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:23 am
by 22l
Tnx for replies,Im not clear if yes I can train in the States without converting my Cnd licence and the ME rating will be added to my licence or if obteined in the US a flight test is also requiered in Canada

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:32 pm
by Grey_Wolf
Cat Driver wrote:
In fact, I joked with a collegue the other day that someone could train using Microsoft Flight Simulator (not spending one hour in the actual aeroplane) -- and then pass the flight test.
There is a definite advantage to using Microsoft Flight Simulator especially if you are a Canadian in that you can learn to fly it and practice raising and lowering the landing gear on every take off and landing. That in its self will put you ahead of a lot of your Canadian friends who may have been trained under the new age gurus in Canadian flight schools. :smt023
Sly Cat, sly :mrgreen: :smt038 :smt044

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:40 pm
by trancemania
That in its self will put you ahead of a lot of your Canadian friends who may have been trained under the new age gurus in Canadian flight schools.
What does that mean CatDriver?

Ill be doing my IFR next year so.........

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:48 pm
by Cat Driver
trancemania, it is a tongue in cheek sly comment about some of the new age think in how to teach people to fly twin engine airplanes.

It is nothing for you to be concerned about unless you happened to take training at a school who has that policy..if they do run don't walk to another school.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:02 pm
by Hooked
Just remember according to the new conversion rules you only get one shot to convert, So if there are any additional ratings you would like to convert that you may be training for in the future, You may want to wait do all your ratings in Canada then once you have all the ratings you want then do the US/Canadian conversion. think ATPL If you found a smoking deal on a multi in the States then, go figure out it flys just the same, come back to Canada and find an instructor who will do a pre-Flight test with you and give you the recommend. I suggest you try to find the same type of plane as you did the training in the states on. I don't think the FAA would let you do a multi ride down there without at least a US Private. I could be wrong so check with them. Cat what is this "NEW" Multi training. PM me if you don't want to release it over the web and it becomes as infectious as "Any Conflicting Please Advise" Might as well say if "If I'm gonna hit you you better let me know cause I my Head real far up my A**"... sorry pet peave

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:08 pm
by Cat Driver
Cat what is this "NEW" Multi training.
Seems that some schools are doing circuits with the gear down when teaching the multi engine rating.

To me that is " New "

Multi training - gear down in the circuit!!

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:01 am
by clubzed
Hi Y'all and I have to agree with Cat on this.

I'm doing my Multi right now and policy at the school I'm stuck with is gear down throughout the circuit (??!!) - couldn't beleive it. I mean, there's nothing like dealing with the potential of a gear-up landing by NOT cycling the gear in the circuit at the student stage thereby NOT helping to develop memory items (checklists aside). AAAAAAARRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!

If schools are going to charge almost $400 an hour (fuel and instructor included) then I'm afraid they gotta get used to fact that their precious multi-engine aircraft and their associated systems and equipment are gonna get some use! What next, sit in the aircraft and make engine noises!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:26 am
by Hedley
That's certainly an interesting lesson you're being taught - that in
a retractable-gear airplane, you don't need to bother putting the
gear down before landing :shock:

Despite what schools may think, getting the gear down is a
serious issue, that has cost many $$$ over many decades.

If I had my druthers, I would install a gear handle into all fixed
gear single engine trainers, and if someone landed with the
gear handle up, hook up a circuit to loudly advertise that fact
to everyone in the vicinity :wink:

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:50 am
by Cat Driver
It is beyond my ability to understand where the training industry and the regulator are on this issue.

On one hand we have the regulator and the industry bleating about " Safety ".

On the other hand we have the training industry doing something as mindboggling stupid as teaching people to set themselves up for a loss of control if they lose an engine in the wrong place at the wrong time.....

Idiots.