There is a (unconfirmed report) that a Provincial Airlines Metroliner has gone off the runway 26 in Goose Bay. No injuries reported however Crash-Fire Rescue is on scene. Anybody else have details to post.
Great news that nobody was injuried!!!
FF
PAL aircraft off the runway at Goose Bay
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It seems that the aircraft did not go off the runway.
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CADORS
PAL is having a bad week and there is 3 days left.
Record #11Cadors Number: 2007A1391 Reporting Region: Atlantic
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2007/11/25
Occurrence Time: 0953 Z Day Or Night: night-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0
Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYYT Aerodrome Name: St. John`s Intl
Occurrence Location: St. John`s Intl (CYYT) Province: Newfoundland and Labrador
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 87862-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationFire - engine
Aircraft InformationFlight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: DEHAVILLAND - CAN Model: DHC 8 106
Year Built: 1991 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: PRATT & WHITNEY-CAN Engine Model: PW121
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Parked Damage: Unknown
Owner: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED Operator: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED (2659)
Operator Type: Commercial
Detail InformationUser Name: MacQuarrie, Jack
Date: 2007/11/26
Further Action Required: Yes
O.P.I.: Maintenance & Manufacturing
Narrative: A Canadian Registered DHC 8 106 reported a fire in the engine on startup. The aircraft was located on the hanger ramp in St. John’s (CYYT). Nil TSB.
Record #11Cadors Number: 2007A1391 Reporting Region: Atlantic
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2007/11/25
Occurrence Time: 0953 Z Day Or Night: night-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0
Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYYT Aerodrome Name: St. John`s Intl
Occurrence Location: St. John`s Intl (CYYT) Province: Newfoundland and Labrador
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 87862-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationFire - engine
Aircraft InformationFlight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: DEHAVILLAND - CAN Model: DHC 8 106
Year Built: 1991 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: PRATT & WHITNEY-CAN Engine Model: PW121
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Parked Damage: Unknown
Owner: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED Operator: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED (2659)
Operator Type: Commercial
Detail InformationUser Name: MacQuarrie, Jack
Date: 2007/11/26
Further Action Required: Yes
O.P.I.: Maintenance & Manufacturing
Narrative: A Canadian Registered DHC 8 106 reported a fire in the engine on startup. The aircraft was located on the hanger ramp in St. John’s (CYYT). Nil TSB.
come on
Who ever you are you really need to get your facts straight before you open your mouth. The airplane at no time went off the runway and you are trying to ruin the credibility of the PIC. I have listed some of full flaps posts below he has it out for PAL and its evident i could not fit them all on here but people can see for there self. PAL must be doing something right when they board in YYT with 37 and all legs mostly full when the competition is carrying a lot less at times. You need to get your facts straight.. the reason like i said i posted this here is you can possibly damage the reputation of the pilot when in actual fact it was a non incident.
all below are comments from forums posts by FULLFLAP aka(fullLIP)
There is a (unconfirmed report) that a Provincial Airlines Metroliner has gone off the runway 26 in Goose Bay. No injuries reported however Crash-Fire Rescue is on scene. Anybody else have details to post.
PAL is having a bad week and there is 3 days left.
Record #11Cadors Number: 2007A1391 Reporting Region: Atlantic
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2007/11/25
Occurrence Time: 0953 Z Day Or Night: night-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0
Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYYT Aerodrome Name: St. John`s Intl
Occurrence Location: St. John`s Intl (CYYT) Province: Newfoundland and Labrador
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 87862-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationFire - engine
Aircraft InformationFlight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: DEHAVILLAND - CAN Model: DHC 8 106
Year Built: 1991 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: PRATT & WHITNEY-CAN Engine Model: PW121
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Parked Damage: Unknown
Owner: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED Operator: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED (2659)
Operator Type: Commercial
Detail InformationUser Name: MacQuarrie, Jack
Date: 2007/11/26
Further Action Required: Yes
O.P.I.: Maintenance & Manufacturing
Narrative: A Canadian Registered DHC 8 106 reported a fire in the engine on startup. The aircraft was located on the hanger ramp in St. John’s (CYYT). Nil TSB.
A lot of us are wishing we were still over there. Not to worry though we will survive to live another day, 5 years will pass quickly.
FF
Looks like the main gear came off on landing, aircraft skidded down the runway for a 1000 feet. UGLY!!!!!
It is difficult to believe that what was viewed a few short months ago as a booming company is now in such dire straights. I cannot imagine how they will survive in the schedule service side of things if a 3rd company comes to life in the NF and ** in the next few months.
The renouned Quebecois Aviation entrepreneur Guy Marcoux has now teamed up with the Labrador INNU to go after the Voisey's Bay contract. One can only expect that this will have a negative effect on PAL and AL, PAL especially, as they exist in Labrador as INNU Mikun Airlines(Aboriginal Partnership) becuase of the Voisey's Bay Nickel project without it they would not survive according to the airline people I talk to up there.
"Time will make all future things present"
FF
This one below is in reference to a bashing of air lab …
Go easy on the son over there if you are one and you are unless you are a daughter and it still apllies think of the growing up you have done in the past 10 years. Did you not embarass your dad atleast once.
FF
After all the years of trying to keep out the unions I am hearing rumours that attempts are now being made to bring the union in at Provincial Airlines. Rumour has it that the inorder for them to fly into the heavily unionized mine site at Voisey's Bay their employees have to become unionized.
Jeers,
Fullflap
all below are comments from forums posts by FULLFLAP aka(fullLIP)
There is a (unconfirmed report) that a Provincial Airlines Metroliner has gone off the runway 26 in Goose Bay. No injuries reported however Crash-Fire Rescue is on scene. Anybody else have details to post.
PAL is having a bad week and there is 3 days left.
Record #11Cadors Number: 2007A1391 Reporting Region: Atlantic
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2007/11/25
Occurrence Time: 0953 Z Day Or Night: night-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0
Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYYT Aerodrome Name: St. John`s Intl
Occurrence Location: St. John`s Intl (CYYT) Province: Newfoundland and Labrador
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 87862-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationFire - engine
Aircraft InformationFlight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: DEHAVILLAND - CAN Model: DHC 8 106
Year Built: 1991 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: PRATT & WHITNEY-CAN Engine Model: PW121
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Parked Damage: Unknown
Owner: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED Operator: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED (2659)
Operator Type: Commercial
Detail InformationUser Name: MacQuarrie, Jack
Date: 2007/11/26
Further Action Required: Yes
O.P.I.: Maintenance & Manufacturing
Narrative: A Canadian Registered DHC 8 106 reported a fire in the engine on startup. The aircraft was located on the hanger ramp in St. John’s (CYYT). Nil TSB.
A lot of us are wishing we were still over there. Not to worry though we will survive to live another day, 5 years will pass quickly.
FF
Looks like the main gear came off on landing, aircraft skidded down the runway for a 1000 feet. UGLY!!!!!
It is difficult to believe that what was viewed a few short months ago as a booming company is now in such dire straights. I cannot imagine how they will survive in the schedule service side of things if a 3rd company comes to life in the NF and ** in the next few months.
The renouned Quebecois Aviation entrepreneur Guy Marcoux has now teamed up with the Labrador INNU to go after the Voisey's Bay contract. One can only expect that this will have a negative effect on PAL and AL, PAL especially, as they exist in Labrador as INNU Mikun Airlines(Aboriginal Partnership) becuase of the Voisey's Bay Nickel project without it they would not survive according to the airline people I talk to up there.
"Time will make all future things present"
FF
This one below is in reference to a bashing of air lab …
Go easy on the son over there if you are one and you are unless you are a daughter and it still apllies think of the growing up you have done in the past 10 years. Did you not embarass your dad atleast once.
FF
After all the years of trying to keep out the unions I am hearing rumours that attempts are now being made to bring the union in at Provincial Airlines. Rumour has it that the inorder for them to fly into the heavily unionized mine site at Voisey's Bay their employees have to become unionized.
Jeers,
Fullflap
Airhawk you missed one important point (Unconfirmed Report). I was being very fair to all involved as I did not have all the details. I used to work for PAL but havn't in a long time. I just posted information as I have on a lot of other carriers. I work in aviation but not for either of the 3 companies that fly out of Goose Bay. Relax!!! You sure have a PAL attitude though first thing you did was blame the PIC!!
FF
FF
Record #3Cadors Number: 2007A1401 Reporting Region: Atlantic
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2007/11/27
Occurrence Time: 1354 Z Day Or Night: day-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0
Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYYR Aerodrome Name: Goose Bay
Occurrence Location: Goose Bay (CYYR) Province: Newfoundland and Labrador
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 87941-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationElectrical problem
Diversion
Aircraft InformationFlight #: SPR901
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: SAAB Model: 340A
Year Built: Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: Engine Model:
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Cruise Damage: No Damage
Owner: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED Operator: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED (2659)
Operator Type: Commercial
Detail InformationUser Name: MacQuarrie, Jack
Date: 2007/11/28
Further Action Required: Yes
O.P.I.: Maintenance & Manufacturing
Narrative: SPR901, SAAB 340, enroute from Goose Bay (CYYR) to Wabush (CYWK), 30 nautical miles east of Wabush, advised of mechanical problems and requested clearance to return to Goose Bay. A cockpit light indicated problems with a generator. No emergency was declared. The flight landed at 15:37Z. Nil TSB
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2007/11/27
Occurrence Time: 1354 Z Day Or Night: day-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0
Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYYR Aerodrome Name: Goose Bay
Occurrence Location: Goose Bay (CYYR) Province: Newfoundland and Labrador
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 87941-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationElectrical problem
Diversion
Aircraft InformationFlight #: SPR901
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: SAAB Model: 340A
Year Built: Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: Engine Model:
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Cruise Damage: No Damage
Owner: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED Operator: PROVINCIAL AIRLINES LIMITED (2659)
Operator Type: Commercial
Detail InformationUser Name: MacQuarrie, Jack
Date: 2007/11/28
Further Action Required: Yes
O.P.I.: Maintenance & Manufacturing
Narrative: SPR901, SAAB 340, enroute from Goose Bay (CYYR) to Wabush (CYWK), 30 nautical miles east of Wabush, advised of mechanical problems and requested clearance to return to Goose Bay. A cockpit light indicated problems with a generator. No emergency was declared. The flight landed at 15:37Z. Nil TSB
Fullflap.
for one airhawk didn't blame the PIC, he siad you "were affecting the credibillity of the PIC" by making your B.S. post of the aircraft being off the runway.
And second, why do you feel it necessary to post every CADORS that has to do with PAL.. We were talkin about the metro here, why did you decide to add the Saab CADOR.
I think Airhawk just might have a point.
for one airhawk didn't blame the PIC, he siad you "were affecting the credibillity of the PIC" by making your B.S. post of the aircraft being off the runway.
And second, why do you feel it necessary to post every CADORS that has to do with PAL.. We were talkin about the metro here, why did you decide to add the Saab CADOR.
I think Airhawk just might have a point.
This is funny because I’ve heard my colleagues that use Avsim mention how the user name "Full Flap" is always bashing PAL and anytime something small happens he’s the first one to run his mouth about the company. Anyways man why bash a company that is doing so well? I guess things didn’t go your way when you worked here so you’re a bit sour are you? Why did you post a Cadors on the Saab when we were talking about the metro?
