Flair Airlines

f.o.ever · Post by **f.o.ever** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:16 pm

Does anyone have any general info on this company??
Anyone ever worked there?
Positive/Negative

niko · Post by **niko** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:59 pm

We don't use positive/negative. We use affirmative for yes and negative for no. Understand?

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:59 pm

niko wrote:We don't use positive/negative. We use affirmative for yes and negative for no. Understand?

Are you some kind of moderator to boss other people around. Gosh, I can't belive people still haven't learnt to respect one another here, asking us if we : "Understand". Please, be polite. After all, we all have at least one common interest if we are on this forum, let's make it swell

Hoov · Post by **Hoov** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:13 pm

uhhh I get the feeling Niko was kiddin around.

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:14 pm

Hoov wrote:uhhh I get the feeling Niko was kiddin around.

I hope so

thx1138 · Post by **thx1138** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:17 pm

I know some guys that work there. They say its a good company. They are currently doing a run for Cargojet. Can't remember which run though.

Braun · Post by **Braun** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:43 pm

They came out of YOW the other day. Maybe that's part of it.

mighty mouse · Post by **mighty mouse** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:59 am

Its the alter ego company of Kelowna Flightcraft. Union busting / circumventing.

forrest junk · Post by **forrest junk** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:38 am

Only KFC pilots think that Flair is union busting/circumventing. Fact is that is is a small company, good people, pay is ok, new aircraft (B737-800) just arrived, and the future looks very bright. If you want in on the ground floor..go for it. BTW Capts start at 90, F/O's about 54 plus benefits.

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:28 pm

Only KFC pilots think that Flair is union busting/circumventing

WRONG

What do you call an operation that virtually shares the entire resources of one company (KFC) except for the fact that it's pilots are not represented by ALPA?

forrest junk · Post by **forrest junk** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:06 pm

Those services you refer to are contracted by Flair, how does that make it union busting? Anyway, no intention of getting into a pissing contest...if you are a unionite no doubt you will be grieved there is no union at Flair....build a bridge...and get over it.

!MC · Post by **!MC** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:12 pm

Boys lets not start arguing or RIMsky will have to step in ... again....thank god someone is on here policing

mighty mouse · Post by **mighty mouse** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:39 am

forrest junk wrote:Those services you refer to are contracted by Flair, how does that make it union busting? Anyway, no intention of getting into a pissing contest...if you are a unionite no doubt you will be grieved there is no union at Flair....build a bridge...and get over it.

ALL that work used to be FLIGHTCRAFT PILTOS work, now Flair is doing it. Thats circumventing the union.

jsmetalbashers · Post by **jsmetalbashers** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:23 pm

Flair is basically a pet project of Jim Rogers, who is the former co-owner of KFC. I doubt that operating one 727 is taking away a lot of union work.

skydrolboy · Post by **skydrolboy** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:23 pm

mighty mouse wrote:
ALL that work used to be FLIGHTCRAFT PILTOS work, now Flair is doing it. Thats circumventing the union.

Get your facts straight, Flair is not doing any work that KFC ever did. Flying freight from YYZ-HAV that was ACE before Flair started doing it. Flying YEG-YMM, that was shell flying it before Flair started it. Nope don't see any work that KFC pilots ever did that Flair is now doing.

Yes Flair has a lot of ties with KFC, and I understand how the KF pilots can see Flair as a threat. But really Flair is not taking or has taken any work away from KFC.

mighty mouse · Post by **mighty mouse** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:01 pm

skydrolboy wrote:
mighty mouse wrote:
ALL that work used to be FLIGHTCRAFT PILOTS work, now Flair is doing it. Thats circumventing the union.
Get your facts straight, Flair is not doing any work that KFC ever did. Flying freight from YYZ-HAV that was ACE before Flair started doing it. Flying YEG-YMM, that was shell flying it before Flair started it. Nope don't see any work that KFC pilots ever did that Flair is now doing.

Yes Flair has a lot of ties with KFC, and I understand how the KF pilots can see Flair as a threat. But really Flair is not taking or has taken any work away from KFC.

1)- Wrong. Any freight on the 727 should be the KFC pilots work period. Flair is KFC with out unionized pilots.

2) KFC in the past has always had small projects like the 737 NG and other 727 passenger charters. As soon as Flair started all the little extra work went to Flair totally bypassing the KFC pilots BUT NOT THE COMPANY!

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it had to be done

mighty mouse · Post by **mighty mouse** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:17 pm

responding to someones question is not trolling.

EyeOh · Post by **EyeOh** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:25 pm

Not involved in either, but I agree. Flair is scabbing. No two ways about it.

LostinRotation · Post by **LostinRotation** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:40 pm

Actually Flair uses Flightcrafts dispatch and stewards, aircraft and maintance...the only thing thats different is the pilots. It's really not that hard to figure out. The only thing that I really don't understand is why ?
Wouldn't all that duplication, lawyers and extra support staff cost more than any possible gains ? I'm also going on info that the pay scales are similar.

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mighty mouse · Post by **mighty mouse** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:09 pm

The reason (I think) is quite simple. As soon as the KFC pilots get the experience on an NG aircraft they quit to get away from the night freight. The only thing that keeps pilots at KFC is the lack of other employment options.

RIMsky · Post by **RIMsky** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:11 pm

I wouldn't mind doing the night shift. Seriously, there must be major incentives for that. For one, doing the night shift, is something that an NG pilot should get used to. Long range aircraft = going through different time zones. Thus, I would find it a bit meek on behalf of pilots, thinking that if they're going to work on such aircraft, that they not do the graveyard shit.

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:35 am

mighty mouse wrote:The only thing that keeps pilots at KFC is the lack of other employment options.

Rrrrright, LOL!!!

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