Jobs in Iraq?

Dusty 3 · Post by **Dusty 3** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:53 pm

Does anybody know where I can find job postings for Iraq

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:22 pm

Enlist in the U.S. military.

LT · Post by LT » Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:27 pm

Cat that really was bad advice...

US soldier pay w/ hazard is probably about 20k/yr.

You can make 10k+/mth as a merc/security officer. Life expectancy is 6 months.

Oh, we were talking about flying jobs?

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:48 pm

HALLIBURTON

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:17 pm

I got a call last week from a pilot bud of mine. He said, lets go to Iraq!! They are paying up to 2K PER DAY (this is true). I was actually thinking about going to flog a Ho around Iraq, until my phone rang back yesterday. Same pilot bud.. diffrent outlook as 5 of the 12 contracted pilots have died in the last 6 weeks (2 of them as a direct result of the war action, the rest im told were accidents?). Its amazing the things we DONT hear on this side of the pond. I`d seriously reconsider going over there if I were you. I dont think anyone could imagine the conditions unless you are there to see them. Awesome money, but is it worth your life? That said, I have a friend flying in Saudi right now, and he says all in all the conditions are pretty good. But thats Saudi, not Iraq. If you seriously still want contact info Dusty, PM me, and i`ll send you what i have.
Fly safe all, Cheers

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:25 pm

No Muslim country in the middle east is safe for a white North American.

Saudi was iffy several years ago when we worked there.

I would not go there now.

Cat

cedarjet · Post by **cedarjet** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:50 pm

An outfit out of DXB flies daily into Iraq, cargo. Pay is nothing close to 2K/day, more like a month, however you fly into 3 airports in Iraq, Basra, Baghdad, Kirkuk. 3 times a week i believe. gotta have B1900 rating with 500multi.

Non aviation jobs, private security 2K/day USD.

flyinthebug · Post by **flyinthebug** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:20 pm

Serious typo... Sorry Cedarjet, meant per week not day. Im not sure who the outfit is your speaking of, but the offer is real @2K per week.. or so the story goes

Fly safe

CFV2 · Post by **CFV2** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:55 pm

cedarjet wrote: Non aviation jobs, private security 2K/day USD.

Private security and private military companies usually prefer ex-military types in such positions.

greenwich · Post by **greenwich** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:33 pm

Ahhhh MONEY!!! The lure of the great Dollar...it always amazes me how far people will go to make quick cash!

It's funny, I've seen quite a few white foreigners in Iraq kneeling down, hands tied behind their backs, begging for their lives! I bet the one thing not going through their minds as they are decapitated is the thought of MONEY!

As Cat said, you are white and/or a foreigner...they don't want you there!

G

P.S. Why don't you try Africa? I hear Ivory Coast, Sudan and Nigeria are great!

North Shore · Post by **North Shore** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:55 pm

From a cursory glance at the news every once in a while, it looks as if Iraq is a colossal goat rodeo for the United States...it would seem to me to be fairly obvious that if they were offering $2K a week, then they are asking you to do a *very* hazardous job. Along the same lines as someone posted above - how much is your life worth? Stick with flying freight to Shamattawa - they've only shot at a plane once there...

Panama Jack · Post by **Panama Jack** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:46 am

I would just as soon offer my services to drug traffickers before flying in Iraq-- the former probably being much safer.

Mach .28 · Post by **Mach .28** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:51 am

Dusty,

Take a look at the U.S. State Department's website. They have pilot postings for Iraq, Bolvia, Columbia and various other places of U.S. interest. Pay is decent at around $80K a year. But read the fine print. There is a 15000K a year bonus for Danger Pay.

Next goto aviation-safety.net and look at all of the accidents in these places. Look at all of the State Department contractors that have been killed over the last few years!!

Cheers,

TI-AKB

cedarjet · Post by **cedarjet** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:55 am

greenwich wrote:
P.S. Why don't you try Africa? I hear Ivory Coast, Sudan and Nigeria are great!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3752216.stm
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?ty ... ID=6521228
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?ty ... ID=6471350

wallypilot · Post by **wallypilot** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:44 pm

just so you know, most of the pilots that fly 1900's for that cargo operation out of DXB have refused to fly into Iraq after they were in Baghdad right before that 330 was hit in the wing with the SAM. From what I heard, the pilots basically refused, and the company threatened to send them all walking, but solidarity held out and those guys stopped flying to Iraq, but kept their jobs and just flew the remaining routes. Well, guess what.....they hired some new guys to fly to Iraq. then promoted some less senior co-pilots to captain becuase they were willing to fly into Iraq. Bastards. the pay isn't even stellar. not bad, but not awesome. not worth it if you ask me. stay out of Iraq. It is way worse there than most media or reports convey to us.

and, actually, Ivory coast is a way better option...(i know you were trying to be sarcastic cedarjet) but if you are careful, you can be quite safe in Abidjan or most other west african cities.

cheers
-wp

neverever · Post by **neverever** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:52 pm

A friend of mine is over there right now flying a KA200 and told me that several times a day the sirens go off and they have to take cover. He's had enough after three months.

The pay would have to be better than incredible.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:24 pm

The bottom line is they have no compulsion about beheading infidels.

What more does one need to know?

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:31 pm

80K a year is NOT worth haveing your ass shot at by some pissed off local.
Besides, go over there for any real length of time and you could have a hard time getting a ramp pass when you get home.

Cheers.

greenwich · Post by **greenwich** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:57 am

P.S. Why don't you try Africa? I hear Ivory Coast, Sudan and Nigeria are great!

Just being facetious!!!

G

merlin · Post by **merlin** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:15 am

I like my head just where it is thanks .....

You couldn't pay me enough to go over there.

Panama Jack · Post by **Panama Jack** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:51 am

wallypilot wrote:just so you know, most of the pilots that fly 1900's for that cargo operation out of DXB have refused to fly into Iraq after they were in Baghdad right before that 330 was hit in the wing with the SAM. From what I heard, the pilots basically refused, and the company threatened to send them all walking, but solidarity held out and those guys stopped flying to Iraq, but kept their jobs and just flew the remaining routes. Well, guess what.....they hired some new guys to fly to Iraq. then promoted some less senior co-pilots to captain becuase they were willing to fly into Iraq. Bastards. the pay isn't even stellar. not bad, but not awesome. not worth it if you ask me. stay out of Iraq. It is way worse there than most media or reports convey to us.

and, actually, Ivory coast is a way better option...(i know you were trying to be sarcastic cedarjet) but if you are careful, you can be quite safe in Abidjan or most other west african cities.

cheers
-wp

Actually, is was an Airbus A-300.

But I thought of that same incident when a few months ago when I woke up from a deep slumber in KLM Business Class, looked at the "Airshow" display, and saw that our track had taken us directly over northern Iraq, Bagdhad and were just north of Basra.

I find that is sometimes easy to overestimate the dangers of being in some places when you are not there. Nevertheless, I have no interest in going to Iraq. My impression is that pretty much everywhere the world is becoming less safe. The root of most of the world´s problems is overpopulation.

KKboy · Post by **KKboy** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:33 am

Are you looking to fly or fix?
I know of several jobs in "South West Asia" (new terminology for war zone) for mechanics mostly helicopter and electrical.
Entry level is 100k USD/yr thats at least 3 times the norm for an A+P I am not sure of the rotation. L3 is looking.

For pilots I think you are out of luck for direct entry, however try Kuwait and Saudi charter operators they are servicing Iraq big time. C130 and other freighters. I think this is a good long term prospect I know pilots who made a fortune on this sort of contracting after the last invasion. It tapers off for 18 months after the initial militery pullout as they arrange barges and other sorts of logistics.

Safty is not such an issue as others would lead you to believe. Stay in the compounds and make sure of the arrangements before you go.

LT · Post by LT » Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:01 am

KKboy wrote: Safty is not such an issue as others would lead you to believe. Stay in the compounds and make sure of the arrangements before you go.

The Aussie that was snatched recently was 10ft in front of the Aussie embassy.

"Make arrangements?" Ie: hire an escort? LoL, there goes your pay, which would defeat the purpose of going to Iraq to make a quick buck.

KKboy · Post by **KKboy** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:36 am

What I said was check arrangements.
Obviously you do not want to be in the suburbs as these guys were. Proximity to an embassy is meaningless unless you are inside, even then it is hazardous.
You also do not want to be selling military supplies etc out of your house or have an Israel stamp in your passport.

I think I used the work "compound that goes with the word "arrangements".
Important words.

Did you think work mans comp was going to cover this or maybe CUPE had an office in Bagdad?

Personally I would look for a compound that is not in Iraq.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:21 am

KKboy :

Two questions.

How many compounds are at airports? Because if they are not at the airport you have to travel on roads to get to them.

How many Muslim countries have you worked in?

Cat

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