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Short on ATPL

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:28 am
by freeze112
I am reviewing my log book. I work as FO on a two crew plane. I started with low time. I am getting ready for my ATPL. When ready I will have 2900 TT most FO. And only 230 PIC including the 100 under supervision. I am short 20 hours for the 250 PIC requirement. Am I screwed ? Do I have to buy 20 hours ? Or is there a way around this. Any suggestions ?
Thanks

Re: Short on ATPL

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:07 pm
by Sasky
well its your choice on how you want to get your extra pic time. But if you dont want to pay for it you are screwed.

Re: Short on ATPL

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:12 pm
by just curious
Yep, see the above.

Re: Short on ATPL

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:47 pm
by Check Pilot
You made the same classic mistake that a lot of folks make. Ya gotta get the time.!! So you gotta go out and buy it, I'd guess. Just get on with it. That stuff costs you money when you get hired on with relatively low time. Sorry, but's that's part of the GA rules as they've always been since the Dead Sea was still just sick.

Re: Short on ATPL

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:28 pm
by Adam Oke
Speaking of common mistakes.
DIVISION VIII - AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT LICENCE
421.34 Aeroplanes - Requirements


(b) 100 hours night flight time as pilot-in-command or as co-pilot of which a minimum of 30 hours shall have been acquired in aeroplanes;
Is that one a toughy to get? I'm assuming crop dusters and float junkies get screwed on this one if they chose to junp to big iron?

Re: Short on ATPL

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:39 pm
by just curious
Yep, common ATPL killer

Re: Short on ATPL

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:49 pm
by Grey_Wolf
Adam Oke wrote: 100 hours night flight time as pilot-in-command or as co-pilot of which a minimum of 30 hours shall have been acquired in aeroplanes;
just curious wrote: Yep, common ATPL killer
Too bad it isn't AND/OR like the XC requirment
(c) 100 additional hours cross-country flight time as pilot-in-command or 200 hours as co-pilot or any combination thereof, with flight time calculated in accordance with section 421.10. Flight time as pilot-in-command may be part of the 250 hours pilot-in-command flight time specified in paragraph
P.S. I'm in that boat right now, 50.9 to go PIC or 45.2 Co-PIC ... :x

Re: Short on ATPL

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:02 am
by ScudRunner
And for the Night time, its PIC or Co-Jo you cannot count Dual night time.

Re: Short on ATPL

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:10 pm
by stuckmike
Don't forget, PIC U/S still only counts as half. Read your company ops manual/Training Manual.

cheers