Is Skyward back?

[Unit 969]

Cadors Number: 2008O0456 Reporting Region: Ontario
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2008/03/18
Occurrence Time: 1352 Z Day Or Night: DAY-TIME
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0

Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYXL Aerodrome Name: Sioux Lookout
Occurrence Location: Sioux Lookout (CYXL) Province: Ontario
Country: CANADA World Area: North America

Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 91460-V1
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:

Event InformationAlleged Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs) infraction
Communication navigation surveillance/air traffic
Conflict - potential
Controlled airspace violation

Aircraft InformationFlight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Aircraft Make: EMBRAER Aircraft Model: EMB 110P1
Year Built: 1981 Amateur Built: NO
Engine Make: PRATT & WHITNEY-CAN Engine Model: PT6A-34
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase Of Flight: Climb Damage: No Damage
Owner: SKYWARD AVIATION LTD. Operator: SKYWARD AVIATION LTD. (754)
Operator Type: Commercial

Detail InformationUser Name: Donaldson, John
Date: 2008/03/18
Further Action Required: YES
O.P.I.: Commercial & Business Aviation
Narrative: The Skyward Aviation Ltd. Embraer EMB-110P1 aircraft had just departed on a [type of flight rules not reported] flight from Sioux Lookout Airport (CYXL) to Thunder Bay Airport (CYQT). On departure from Sioux Lookout Airport, the flight crew were cleared to 4,000 feet, however, the aircraft appeared on radar climbing through 4,500 feet. The flight crew advised that they overshot their altitude and the controller re-cleared the aircraft to FL190. Ops. impact -- unknown.
Please note that for the most part, CADORS reports contain preliminary, unconfirmed data which can be subject to change.

[Canoehead]

I don't know much about the Bandit, but I'm almost certain it's unpressurized. Why would one want to operate said aircraft at FL190, and especially going from YXL to YQT?

Just curious I guess....

[bob sacamano]

Many flights from YXL-YQT fly at 190-210. Metros and 1900s do it everyday (Bearskin and Wasaya).

Some 110's are pressurized, this one says EMB 110P1, I think the P2 is pressurized.

[BusDriver]

What about the metro in YRL? Are they getting back into sched work?

[Changes in Latitudes]

Skyward is a lot like "SEXY"...it never really left.

[170 to xray]

My guess.....no. At least not with a Bandit. SKG (the Conquest) flew from YRL to YQT on that day. I'm guessing that is the aircraft in question.

Emb110p1 was not pressurized. SKD, SKR, SKL and the infamous SKJunk were all p1's.

[Doc]

Ya can't pressurize a Bandit....they ain't "round"!

[ei ei owe]

Ya can't pressurize a Bandit....they ain't "round"!

Neither's a 1900 D.

Skyward Bandits flying at 190?? Resurrections from the desert down south? I hope FB gets those things flying again. It would be such a heat score for Transport, he wouldn't stand a chance. Those f.....ing Bandits can kiss my ass!!!!

[Unit 969]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/20 ... 42005.html

Could this be Perimeter? The link claims Perimeter owns the name.

[Go Guns]

It was my understanding that Skyward's Bandits are pop cans by now. At any rate, they wouldn't be @ FL190.

[bob sacamano]

What about the metro in YRL? Are they getting back into sched work?

From what I was told the metro 2 that's in YRL is getting ready to hit the skies for skyscare. Medivac machine.

[AEROMONKEY]

Skyward is in often in YQT...still doin medivacs..

[Axial Flow]

Couldn't have been this one The others are resting close by also...

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[ybp]

Yes, there are still some of those nasty SK?'s flying around. Just the other day I saw one that had the same paint job as SKAb....did.

We think that it is a bad thing, but those ex-Skyward planes are providing job security for a lot of people. In the past 3 1/2 years, I have spent 2 1/2 years overhauling two of the Skywards pieces....what a job.

Last I heard, there was still a 1900D that was waiting for some poor sucker to try to get it airworthy again....God help them if they try...they'll need it.

[therubberjungle]

"Some 110's are pressurized, this one says EMB 110P1, I think the P2 is pressurized."

In the 2500 hours I flew Bandits I never heard of a pressurized model. Had Embraer opted to pressurize that plane and fitted larger engines (1000+ hp) they would have made a winner.

Embraer did consider doing this but early into the project they decided to go in a different direction and created the EMB-120 Brasilia.

BTW, the P2 variant of the Bandit was essentially an improved P1. Most noticeable of these changes was the dihedral tail, just like the one on good ol' SKL.

Cheers

[CID]

I've never heard of a pressurized EMB-110 either. After a bit of surfing I found that apparently an EMB-110P3 was proposed but it was dropped in favour of development of the EMB-120.

[bob sacamano]

Embraer built 494 aircraft in numerous configurations for a variety of roles including:

* YC-95 or EMB 100 - Prototype.
* EMB 110 - Military transport version.
* C-95 - Military transport version for the Brazilian Air Force.
* EMB 110A - Radio calibration version.
* E-95 - radio calibration version for the Brazilian Air Force.
* EC-95B - Calibration version for the Brazilian Air Force.
* EMB 110B - Aerial survey, aerial photography version.
* R-95 - Aerial survey version for the Brazilian Air Force.
* EMB 110CN - Three navalised aircraft sold to the Chilean Navy.
* EMB 110C - The first commercial model, 15-seat passenger commuter airline.
* EMB 111A - Maritime patrol version for the Brazilian Air Force. The aircraft also has the Brazilian Air Force designation P-95. A few were leased to the Argentine Navy after the Falklands War (Spanish: Guerra de las Malvinas/Guerra del Atlántico Sur) due to the retirement of their last SP-2H Neptune and until the introduction of the modified L-188 Electras.
* P-95B -
* EMB 111AN - Six maritime patrol aircraft sold to the Chilean Navy.
* EMB 110E
* EMB 110E(J) - 7 seat executive transport version.
* EMB 110K1 - Cargo transport version.
* C-95A - Cargo version for the Brazilian Air Force.
* EMB 110P - Commuter airline version.
* EMB 110P1 - Quick change cargo/passenger transport version.
* C-95B - Quick change cargo/passenger version for the Brazilian Air Force.
* EMB 110P1 SAR - Search and rescue version.
* EMB 110P/A - 18 seat passenger version, intended for export.
* EMB 110P1/A - Mixed passenger/freight version with enlarged cargo door.
* EMB 110P1/41 - Cargo/passenger transport aircraft.
* EMB 110P1K/110K - Military version.
* C-95C - The Brazilian Air Force version of the EMB 110P2.
* EMB 110P2
* EMB 110P2/A - Modifications for airline commuter role, seating up to 21 passengers.
* EMB 110P2/41 - 21-seat pressurised commuter airline.
* EMB 110S1 - Geophysical survey version.
* SC-95 - Search and rescue version for the Brazilian Air Force.
* XC-95 - Rain research version for the Brazilian Air Force.

Wiki

Not sure if it made it to the flight line.

[therubberjungle]

"When production ceased in 1990, 500 Bandeirantes had been ordered and built, variants including the EMB-110, EMB-110/C-95, EMB-110 A/EC 95, EMB-110B/R-95, EMB-110B1, EMB-110C, EMBHOE(J), EMB-110K1/C-95A, EMB-110P, EMB-110P1K and EMB-110S1. The final production versions, progressive developments of earlier aircraft, included the EMB-110P1/C-95B for quick-change passenger/cargo operations; EMB-110P2/C-95C third-level commuter transport; and two versions corresponding to the foregoing for operations at a higher gross weight which have the respective designations EMB-110P1/41 and EMB-110P2/41 A pressurised version designated EMB-110P3, did not proceed."

Taken from this website:

http://www.aviastar.org/air/brazil/embraer-111.php

Cheers