Logbook Question

[arcticbeaches]

I'm updating my logbook to submit my ATPL paperwork to transport. Currently doing VFR flying out of the same airport 2-3 legs per day with no enroute stops. I do daily entries in my logbook not one per flight. In the from/to column can I get away with just entering the airport once or is it better to indicate that there were two legs on that given day by clustering it with the same airport name two/three times in both the from and to columns?

Personal preference I guess but I don't want to get shit from Transport or a future employer.

[LegoMan]

I have mine match the aircraft journey log. So each leg gets a column. I remember asking a transport guy about this, I forgot if he said if it was mandatory but he says thats what was preferred.

[Tim]

I'd say call the general aviation dept of your regional TC office...of course if you called another region's you'll get another answer.

[Snowgoose]

Up north I used to operate a sched with one flight number, 7 legs and about 11.5 hours of flying. I was informed that you could make one entry. I did that for 4 years. I had no problem when I applied for my ATPL.

[trey kule]

Tim gave you good advice. If you get the info from TC you are sure it is correct, though you might want to do it by email so you have a written record.

How exactly do you do two or three legs with no enroute stops...the JL would be CABC to CABC, or CABC to CABD as it records only your departure point and destination. Why would you log the "legs" in your personal logbook any differently? If I take off at point A and land at point B...my time would be.... I would not put via.......although I suppose if you logged each leg as an entry you could up the times a little between air time and flight time...nah...no pilot would do that.

[iflyforpie]

I used to fly ten or eleven short legs a day (average about 4.5 hrs total), but at each airport I shut down the plane, unloaded cargo, then re loaded it-so there was an entry for each. It sure was a pain at the end of the day to enter it all (used " alot) but it .

But if you don't stop at the end of each leg (like shut the engine down and restart it) then it should only be one journey log entry and one personal log entry-with the route in the remarks and the amount of landings if any.

[North Shore]

A not-so-recent day in my pre-ATPL logbook looked like thus:

YPL-Williams-YPL-Morris-YPL-North Caribou-YPL-Wetlaufer-Bow-YPL-Bartman-YPL-Redpath-YPL for a total of 8.6 hours.

No problems with TC when it came time to get my AA...

[bandit1]

I used one line per day and marked the flight #'s and total hrs.

Subimiited it on an excel spreadsheet and they loved it. Nice and clean, times added up.

[arcticbeaches]

Thanks for the replies. Sounds like at the end of the day as long as you're organized they don't mind.

I stuck with just putting from Airport A to Airport A as a single daily entry. As such, the daily flight hours are way beyond the aircraft's endurance making it fairly obvious there were two + legs. The number of VFR take off and landings isn't required for any TC licensing requirements and currency/recency issues aren't important since we fly so much.

[flying4dollars]

For me, I fly numerous legs in a day, so I just enter it as follows

eg:

DATE | TYPE | A/C | PIC | F/O | FROM | TO | REMARKS
April 30 | BE10 | C-XXXX | Joe Blow | Self | CYYC | CYYC | YYC-YEG-YOD-YMM-YXE-YEG-YYC |

Then I of course enter the total time flown for that day under the appropriate column (day/night multi engine co-pilot)

Most of my co-workers do that as well and dont have issues when getting ATPLS

Hope this helps

[Cold_Lake_Hvy]

I remember when i did that! OH how that brings me back. Now 5 logbooks later i just count how many continents I crossed in one flight leg. Although management would like me to stop.
good luck with the ATPL

[just curious]

Now 5 logbooks later i just count how many continents I crossed in one flight leg.

If it helps, Greenland isn't a continent.

[Cold_Lake_Hvy]

Now 5 logbooks later i just count how many continents I crossed in one flight leg.

If it helps, Greenland isn't a continent.

But asia is. 400 times later and its still just another dot on the logbook

[Jeremy]

flying4dollars has the right idea. I've been doing it that way for a couple years. Separate entires are far too time consuming esp for short hops and they burn-through the pages way too fast.

As long as you're not switching tails or crew, one entry per day works great.

[Lommer]

If you're doing the exact same legs repeatedly, you can define them as a route or flight number and just enter that. As long as the route(s) or flight number(s) are fully explained with the documentation you submit to TC it should be ok. Also note that any crew or aircraft change MUST be logged on a separate line.

NB: I don't have my A's, this is just what I've been told by a few people.

[co-joe]

I'd say call the general aviation dept of your regional TC office...of course if you called another region's you'll get another answer.

So just keep calling different regional offices until you get the answer you want, then send them your log book for certification!

Daily entries were fine for me, but you have to enter all the airports you landed at in the remarks column.